Apparently any time people are in a row on one end of a long table, it’s automatically a Last Supper reference.
It was literally a runway. Not sure how else they should have done it lol
It was all based on divine shapes and tapestries etched by early mathematicians to represent what they thought were powerful concepts, especially “moral” ones, that they thought could shape people’s behaviour.
People like Pythagoras could go insane worshipping these shapes, even though they had useful mathematical properties that could predict things about what the real world was like. They weren’t totally stupid, and maths without technology wasn’t extra hard.
Scholars like Jesus would go around spreading ideas about how perfect the triangle was. It contained three simple connected points that were very similar. Specifically, it had a C3 rotation in mathematical group theory. If you spin it by 120 degrees, it’s the same afterwards. It contained three equally important geometric points that could never be transformed or “manipulated” so you could easily tell them apart. This was His Trinity.
Shapes like this are actually very important and have special properties in quantum dynamics nowadays, so their beliefs still hold a lot of power in many very logical people and how they think the world works based on science.
There were also more complicated systems popular in the past, too, that built up other forms of mathematics. Astrology was a good example too. They actually had very complicated systems for predicting lots of things based on measurements of time. If the data you had generally fit what usually happened (at least most of the time), you could be quite confident in those beliefs without being totally moronic.
I actually think some of these more mathematical beliefs may see a resurgence in the near future as proper quantum technologies are developed. People could fear them as they disrupt beliefs about technology, even those that only know a limited subset of modern physical laws (like Newton’s laws, which are very accurate, but not universally “true” by modern scientific standards).
Most people don’t realise how much technology is about to change. It’s already happening and it’s scary.
TIL Terrence Howard is on the fediverse
I only believe in the Orb shape described by mathematical fractals and quantum mechanics.
I legitimately cannot tell if this is a shitpost or sincere crazy ramblings. Well done either way 👏
It’s a logically plausible idea that I and many others before me invented to explain certain things in a way that tries to be internally, logically consistent in any way it can be. An Orb is a very versatile type of “magic” computer technology that may advance the world in the future but can also exist in any well-studied scholar’s mind alone.
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=bAIbvlobWDM
Oh dear…
It’s all based on advanced quantum mechanical systems like the benzene ring, which modern physicists agree on. They describe how you can store up and use quantum energies using intricate folding strings.
My “magic” is just quantum mechanics. Newton’s precise laws were literally debunked decades ago, and you need stranger versions to handle edge cases now. I think your “naturalist” worldview is far dumber than you seem to think my “magic” one is, buddy.
Ramblings, it’s like the geometry version of numerology or idealism. You’ll notice both groups will reference quantum scale science like qed or qft but never actually use any equations that describe events in reality to back up their claims because they don’t want to have to appeal to reality for their delusional beliefs.
Schizophrenia is sad man :(
Yahweh was actually the old god of the harvest and wine I believe. Before the Jewish Pantheon shrunk to one god only. So Yahweh was similar to Dionysus at one point. There are still remnants and mentions of the other gods in the old testament, like Yahweh’s wife Ashira and Baal who I think was an underworld god. Also funny that in the old testament, god talks about other gods as if they’re real but weak or bad, doesn’t deny they exist.
I recall Yahweh being described as a storm god, but gods often wear many hats. Storms can affect harvests a great deal.
The version I heard he was a war god and killed the rest of his pantheon, then forbade his followers from even speaking of the other gods. This may have been modern fanfiction though, i’ve never gone back to figure out where I read that from.
I don’t think that’s from anything official, but it’s a cool narrative to explain his ascension from polytheistic to monotheistic god! And it fits with how he acts in the bible.
Where’s Rick Riordan to novelize this!
I thought it was a water-source deity? At least 2 of us would make slightly worse christians lol.
Probably all of the above at one time or another.
I mean, literally all of you would be above par…
I saw that Yahweh could be a smith/fire god and became the most powerful deity because of the importance of the copper in the era.
I remember a theory that Dionysus is the Christian god in disguise.
There’s also a theory about Loki being the same.
I don’t remember the details but these theories make more sense to me than the actual religions
To me it’s crazy that the Aztecs had a trickster god of mischief who would shape shift into a Fox. And across the planet we have Loki.
Yahweh was a storm/raiding god fairly similar to, and later competing with and overtaking, Ba’al in the same domain but from the northwest (IIRC) semitic pantheon. The YouTube channel Esoterica has some great vids about it.
It’s really too bad Paul went in for Apolline Douchiness rather than Dionysian partying.
Its sad. Just full blast showing global problems with history education
I don’t think it counts as stealing- syncretism is present in virtually every faith that has contact with another faith, modern and ancient.
the abandoment is sorta wierd though. so xmass and easter but no celebration of the feast of booths or passover
Not religious any more, but got to do Passover dinner (Seder?) once in a messianic Jewish church as a kid. It was neat. Learned I like lamb and the bitter herbs were actually kind of good.
I’m Jewish. It’s a cool holiday in terms of ceremony, but you have to remember that it celebrates death. A lot of death. Especially child death. You even pour 10 drops of wine from the cup do represent the blood of the 10 plagues.
I’m proud of my heritage, but the religion is all manner of fucked up.
Angel of death and the firstborn unless you put blood over your door. It’s twisted stuff.
I’m proud of my heritage as well, but there’s some bad religion in there.
I have very little actual experience with Jewish things and culture. Y’all seem to be nice people, mostly. I’ve never understood the hate.
I think the hate is mostly an “other” thing. Same with any other minority really.
Eating babies is disgusting. There are Christian cults that practice baby eating rituals??
Yup. Sure are. I’m an atheist meat eater. Grew up in extreme evangelical Christianity in Alabama. I still hunt and fish. Go with love. Sorry you’re angry.
the what now
Lambs are baby sheep.
Oh. Then it’s one delicious ritual if you ask me. Lamb is tasty as hell.
Christianity stole eating from the pagans.
Really wish they’d stop for 90-120 days
I thought it was a well planned Papa Smurf…/s
it is funny how christians by and large do not follow the biblical holiday but totally do the cool pagan ones.
They only care about it when they can be angry and righteous about it. Don’t give them oxygen !
Which one is the biblical holiday?
both. there are like half a dozen mentioned in the bible as special sabbaths and the sabbath is technically a weekly holiday
Especially Halloween. Where the fuck do they get off stealing the best and most very different from their own shit?
then they tack on all saints and all souls but nobody acknowledges them.
Mexicans have entered the chat, with deafening polka
Holy shit, do they ever acknowledge those holidays, but I think it’s because they already had a “day of the dead,” before they were forcibly converted to the teachings of Cathol.
yeah its more day of the dead and less all saints/souls. I think its just another good example on going with the cool pagan and not so much boring christian. let me see we can party and dress up or dress up and go to church. decisions, decisions.
I can tell by how I don’t even know what you’re talking about. 🤪
I think there are a large number of valid reasons to be confused by this image that do not have to do with Christianity.
Like, how do I get a job like that?
You start by making a number one hit song that is absolutely funny. You continue by making performance art. Then you combine both !
The same christians who got offended by this would also complain about muslims being prudish when they get pissy about showing their prophet.
For accuracy sake, yes the depiction in the Olympics was meant to be Feast of the Gods, but that painting came after The Last Supper and is thought to be directly inspired by da Vinci. Last Supper - 1495 Feast of the Gods - 1635-1640
Linking Wikipedia. The primaries appear to be in French 😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Festin_des_Dieux
Don’t forget the people that are mad at this also get mad then they hear Beethoven’s Ode to Joy performed or translated because the lyrics aren’t the same as the Christian hymn that plagiarized his melody. They also get mad when they hear Greensleeves performed because those lyrics don’t line up with the Christian hymn that uses the same melody either.
This makes much more sene than Last Supper. Got a source on it actually suppised to be reannacment of this painting?
Not doubting you because I have eyes but some people migh be blinded by their christian goggles.
Got a source on it actually suppised to be reannacment of this painting?
The DJ in the center posted about it: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279
Also the post has screenshots about the two different moments, 40 minutes from each other.
Ok, I don’t speak French, but tried to translate using the new translator beta in Firefox. From what I understoon from the OP, they say it was in fact Last Supper and is making comparisons to it. This is somehow confirmed by DJ from all people?
In the comments of the linked post, there is a link to an article where the artistic director directly reacts and says it is not. That it was supposed to be an image of a pagan festival. He doesn’t cite inspirations, but it being the Feast of the Gods mentioned in the comment here is not too far fetched.
From the article, as translated by Firefox:
Was it the Last Supper? It was “not my inspiration,” replied Thomas Jolly. “I think it was quite clear, there’s Dionysus coming to this table. He’s here why? Because he is god of the feast…, of wine, and father of Sequana, goddess connected to the river.” “The idea was rather to make a great pagan festival connected to the gods of Olympus… Olympus… Olympism,” he continued.
People are talking about two different moments, 40 minutes from each other: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279
Sorry for the French, but the screens and minutes are there.
Does anyone have a video link? I can’t find it anywhere.
What, that’s not common knowledge?
Btw, christmas was stolen from Yule.
Like 4/5 of the Bible isn’t common knowledge to most Christians. To say nothing of the actual history of Christianity.
For sure, the ancient Israelites had a pantheon of gods, just like the Greeks. I mean, their monotheism developed out their own version paganism, of which Yahweh was but one of their gods. Specifically, the god of the storms that occurred in southern palestinian. He had a wife, multiple kids and a giant oversized novelty penis. Along with his god sized cock, he would often be represented as a bull, as a man with horns or a golden calf.
Why yes, theexact kind of golden calf the Israelites started to worship when moses when up mount sinai to get the 10 commandments. Its specifically the exact reason they did it and not that they just decided to worship some random cow, despite having seen a bag full of miracles and monstrous amounts of child murder from their actual god first hand.
Yup, the calf was most likely a regular part of the northern Israel’s worship, but not of the southern Judah’s. Since most of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is written from a Judean perspective (which makes sense; it survived longer), it treats it as blasphemous, when in reality, to them, it wasn’t.
What, that’s not common knowledge?
To the American Christians throwing a fit about this? No, they have no idea.
You would think it was common knowledge, especially given the fact that Hades is in the Bible but it’s not. They want to believe that they are the one true religion and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to keep their religion pure.
These are the same people that get mad when they uear Beethoven’s Ode to Joy because he doesn’t use the lyrics from the Christian hymn that stole his melody.
Btw, i googled ancient epics because i thought there was one more with similiar name to Atrahasis’ but my god, i know most of the names from Anime.
As someone raised as a Mor[m]on, their response would be: the pantheons of pagan gods are just corruptions of the Gospel taught to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Thankfully, Joe Smith (not a couch banger, just a plain old pedophiliac serial rapist like any other good Christian leader) restored (made up) the lost parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
hums dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
According to some ex-mormon lady on YouTube, one of her non-Mormon friends would quote/sing that at her when she would tell him about the beliefs of Mormonism, while they were in highschool. She didn’t catch what he was saying until after she left the church and saw that episode.
We can get more gnostic. We can go deeper. Actually, Adam and Eve are the corruptions of a still more authentic Gospel that’s been occluded from us.
☐ Ambient Occlusion
☒ Biblical Occlusion
As if those so-called “foot-washing Christians” had anything better to do. 😒
