Donald Trump is proving he’s racist and stupid with his latest post.

In a Truth Social post Thursday morning, Donald Trump appeared to suggest, again, that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris isn’t really Black, ramping up his identity-based attacks to the horror of those in his party who consider racism a losing electoral strategy.

Earlier in the week, many GOP strategists, including in the Trump camp, worried that attacks on Harris’s race and gender—which seemed all but inevitable considering Trump’s history of racism and misogyny—would pose a serious liability for the campaign. “We hope he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can’t control him,” a source close to the campaign told The Washington Post.

These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”

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    2 months ago

    The braindead part is that it shows how much something most don’t care about… Is so important to trump and the Republicans

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    Here’s what I don’t get, regardless of if your black or indian, if you grew up in america with dark skin you likely have faced all the same struggles that any black voter would care about.

    So even if he was right (he’s not, he’s what physicists would call “not even wrong”), so what? Are racists any less racist to indians than african americans?

    I don’t get the playbook here, non-racists would just be confused and racists would still be racists.

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      I think he’s thinking it’ll go something like:

      Potential black voters in swing states: “Kamala is half Indian?? Hell no, I’m not voting for her! As everyone knows, all people are racist pieces of shit towards anyone who doesn’t align exactly with the ethnicity they are, so I’m staying home!”

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      Here’s what I don’t get, regardless of if your black or indian, if you grew up in america with dark skin you likely have faced all the same struggles that any black voter would care about.

      No, that’s very much not true, except maybe on a very superficial “some bigot called me a slur” kind of level. Indian-Americans are disproportionately wealthy and highly-educated; African-Americans are disproportionately the opposite. African-Americans have been subjected to institutional racism for centuries that is still ongoing because of the extreme wealth disparities it created (e.g. even after theoretically abolishing redlining decades ago, houses in black neighborhoods still don’t appreciate in value at the same rate ones in white neighborhoods do… except when the neighborhood gentrifies and forces the black people out). Meanwhile, the bulk of Indian-Americans arrived after the Civil Rights Act, Fair Housing Act, etc. and had the means and opportunity to move straight into middle-class white neighborhoods and assimilate.

      That’s not to say that Indian-Americans don’t face “struggles:” discrimination against Indian-American tech workers in particular is definitely a thing, especially motivated by a “the H1-Bs turk err jerbs” sentiment. (Meanwhile, Black engineers are treated either normally or at worst, as a curiosity, because there are so few of them to begin with. Pop quiz: why are there so few of them to begin with…?)

      So, no: while it’s true that all minorities are subject to discrimination, the type and extent of that discrimination varies greatly between different minority groups. The struggles are not the same.


      Getting back to the real question you asked: the reason Trump wants to treat Harris as Indian, not Black, is to try to delegitimatize her in the eyes of Black voters as being some kind of elite that doesn’t actually understand their struggle.

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        Huh, very valid points. I guess I was assuming casual racism that would come from only appearances and assumptions. But you are right that economic class heavily impacts the discrimination a person faces and that’s specifically where african americans have been hit the hardest historically.

        Thanks for providing more context.

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        Valid points indeed, but I think this strategy might not work in his favor, because anyone who had to endure any kind of racial discrimination based on something like skin color will be offended by these attacks. The old white man simply doesn’t have any legitimacy to comment on someone being too black or not black enough. It’s disgusting and weird.

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          It won’t. He only understands racism from a white perspective and is trying to apply that elsewhere, which is why it’s extra ridiculous.

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        No, it’s a reference to the lyrics from a Public Enemy song on their 1988 album It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. The song addresses themes of racial inequality and systemic injustice. It’s simply referencing the notion that if a person is born half Black from one parent, the child will be deemed Black henceforth.

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    “we’re hoping he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, we can’t control him”

    • says person working for uncontrollable crazy racist and sexist person.
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    Worse? There are actually lots of Africans in India and they’ve been there for thousands of years. Some big migration once upon a time and you have communities of blacks now.

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      Not to mention alot of Indians in Africa, at least in Kenya. There’s plenty of Indian-Africans and probably plenty of African-Indians.

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      Also the first humans out of Africa settled there. They have groups on the coast which have genetics extremely similar to humans that lived in Africa and that time period.

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    I was hoping for a throwback to “Obama isn’t black” where the image was took a colourpicker to say Trump’s darker

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    These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”

    Oh, so Trump is accusing her of what he is guilty of. He would change his ethnicity from Swedish to Irish to German depending on who was around.

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    I honestly think the more likely explanation is that he doesn’t realize Kamala Harris and Nikki Hayley are different people. They’re both just “that woman I’m running against” to him.

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    I think he desperately doesn’t want her to get the black vote, so he’s trying to say to everyone that she’s not black. It’s not going to work and it just makes him look like an idiot and bigot. *Also half black Obama was black enough [pops popcorn].

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      Let’s say for a second hypothetically that Kamala is just Indian but still calls herself black. Do we all for a second think that the black community would just be fine with some old rich white dude policing their identity anyways?

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        Well, if we are playing this straight, he didnt even answer the question he was given. They were asking him about why black people should vote for him, and he responds that Kamala is actually Indian.

        I know he normally talks like this, but come on thats absurd right?

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      Normally I’d agree with you that reporting every dumb racist thought that disgorges out his face is annoying and counter-productive. But continuing this particularly inneffective tactic is good news and I’m glad to hear it.

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    Recently, a major topic of discussion has been how fast the Democratic campaign went from weak to enthusiastic.

    Stories like this one remind me how fast the Trump campaign went from scary to amusingly pathetic.

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      Raccoons are much smaller than me. But I would be hesitant to corner one. Never underestimate the destructive capabilities of someone with poor priorities.

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        Good point. I know better than to let my guard down completely, but I’m less concerned about him than I used to be. It feels good.

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    those in his party who consider racism a losing electoral strategy

    I thought weaponized racism was literally a requirement for their party

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      Both parties. There’s nothing the dems love more than proxies for racism.

      Kamala pledging to pass Biden’s border bill that closes the southern border and increases ICE detention capacity is a slightly more respectable way of expressing what Trump expresses about immigrants, while promoting almost the exact same racist policies.

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          That is a legitimate thing to say when both sides are promoting a bill to shut down the border, hunt down immigrants in the country more efficiently, and hold more of them in camps.

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            Did not Biden search for and find hundreds of separated migrant children, separated under the Trump presidency, and reunite them with their families? That would be something of note that is different between the parties.

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    Trump is fucking weird. Dude doesn’t even understand what it’s like to have different traditions on your father and mother’s side of the fence.