• SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
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    If that little dude is as stoked about Pikachu as my dude was about Ninja Turtles then I feel his frustration. My dude one time spent an entire 5-hour car ride talking about Master Splinter. If I could have left him on the side of the road in New Mexico without his mother killing me, I would have lol.

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      It doesn’t matter what the topic is. Kids will always fixate on things. Depends on what they were exposed to and interested in, but that’s just kids being kids.

      It’s never appropriate to talk to a kid like Vance did, even if we can understand how truly annoying kids fixated on a thing is.

      Also, what kind of shitty parent exposes their kids to known pedos?

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        Yep, that’s a sign of being a serious person who has grown up right; that you can be a fan of things without it being a fixation and not feeling too bad about it. The opposite? Every subreddit.

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      That’s just little boys though, you can kindly redirect. My boy is 9 and he can talk forever about Pokémon, Minecraft or whatever he is fixated on today. Sometimes I just have to tell him I’m done now, sometimes I have to say it a few times but that’s ya know, parenting.

      You didn’t drop him on the side of the road, but it was an idea to help you get through it.

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      It can be annoying, but I listen to my kid ramble about Minecraft for hours, and honestly I remember when I was a kid, I was never that comfortable with my parents. I’d rather sit through it and him really enjoy the time than him not feel comfortable sharing it with me.

      Notably, I really didn’t develop this opinion until my wife and I separated. Now I really just enjoy listening to him talk about whatever he wants. I just enjoy time with him.

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        In a way, doesn’t that prove your parents were right? Because they raised a boy, maybe even a man, who feels empathy for their own children’s emotional attachments?

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          No. My empathy development was independent. My parents made changes in how they were raised to raising me. They taught me about being in someone else’s shoes, recognizing how things I did impacted others, the difference between privilege and right. They also denonstrated that empathy came from a place of courage rather than fear, and I knew at a very young age that courage was very valuable.

          This was entirely unrelated to empathy. It was based on anxiety I developed very young for reasons that are still undiscovered. Probably just that I was a sensitive kid, and didnt want my parents angry or annoyed with me.

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            OK, so why then shit all over your parents’ legacy like you’re a dung beetle on laxative? I guess I was right assuming you’re mentally merely a little boy.

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    On brand.

    It’s oddly appropriate that those who are most focused on the supposed inherent moral imperative to have children are so often such awful parents.

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      He hasn’t got the time to parent his children, he’s got a full time job going on podcasts to berate the rest of us for not having children.

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    What a weird thing to say to your kid. That’s not normal. What happen to protect the kids? “Shut the hell up so I can talk to the rapist, convicted felon and credibly accused pedophile!”

    Are these the family values?

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    Can someone explain what a Pokémon “phase” is?

    Is he implying that you become less interested in Pokémon at some point?

    🤔

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      My 14-year-old who had an Evee plushie and used to call our dog Charlie “Charmander” rolls her eyes when she sees Pokemon stuff now that she’s a “I’m too cool for this kids stuff” teenager.

      Then she asks if I can get her some Hello Kitty stickers for her to put on her phone case.

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    Pokemon isn’t a phase, I’ll talk Pokemon with his kid while he goes and loses an election.

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    I dislike this guy as much as everyone else, but isn’t the fact that his son wants to tell him about Pokémon all the time an indication that he is not a terrible father?

    I mean, I can only speak from personal experience, but the kids I’ve seen who are treated badly do not want to talk to their parents about their interests.

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      Yeah people are reading too much into this. I’d like to think I’d never say shut the hell up to my kids (or anyone else), but everyone’s family dynamic is different.

      Unfortunately sometimes you have to make them understand that now is not the time. This may be his attempt to do so.

      I only spanked my kids once and that was when they tried to run into traffic. I’m sure some people watching judged me and thought I was a terrible parent. But I needed to make them understand immediately that they can’t do that.

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        Unfortunately sometimes you have to make them understand that now is not the time. This may be his attempt to do so.

        And yet my parents, my wife’s parents and we as parents have never had to say that to a child. Once.

        I only spanked my kids once and that was when they tried to run into traffic. I’m sure some people watching judged me and thought I was a terrible parent. But I needed to make them understand immediately that they can’t do that.

        So they learned the necessary truth that if they try to run into traffic, they will be hit by a parent?

        I don’t think you’re a terrible parent for that, but I am judging you. That doesn’t let them know why it’s wrong to run into traffic, it just lets them think it makes you angry. That is not a way to teach your kids a lesson.

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        Nah, man, you made an error in your parenting. It’s not a big deal so long as your recognize it but at this point there is pretty substantial evidence that such discipline techniques are generally more harmful than not.

        And that’s ok, because honestly parenting is fucking hard. I definitely get rougher and less patient with my kid when I’m stressed, but it’s a behavior I recognize I need to change and actively work on because it is objectively, unquestionably, bad parenting. This is a long way of saying that while, yea, family dynamics vary, there are many ways of parenting that are just very clearly bad or good, and recognizing the bad, even in ourselves, is something that is necessary for being a complete parent.

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      I wanted to tell my dad about Pokemon, but my parents were religious fanatics. They sent me to an all boys extreme religious group home for being autistic where kids were raped and beat. My parents wouldn’t listen as I begged them to take me out and that we were being abused. They still defend the place 20 years later after it was sued into the ground. When I came out to them this year as transfem they told me not to contact them again and I haven’t heard a word since.

      It’s not a very reliable indication that a kid wants to share their interests with their mom and dad. They’re your parents. Kids crave bonding over their interests.

      I still wish things were better and dad would play video games with me, even though I know he’s a piece of shit sent from the lowest level of humanity attainable.

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      Somehow I have gone through over 14 years of parenthood without ever telling my child to “shut the hell up.”

      You say, “please be quiet for a minute, ok? We’re talking about something important.” Something like that seemed to work just fine when she was of the age where she constantly babbled about video games.

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      Or his son wants attention you can be treated poorly without being treated poorly physically.

      Manny wats to interpret a situation and of a kid wants to tell him someone one time how do we know he is constantly wanting to talk about it.

      Regardless, your comment does one thing it tries to side step the real glooming issue. You shouldn’t be an ass to your kids by shutting them down the way he did. There are way better ways to handle this. I cuss like a sailor but I would never tell a kid to shut the hell up.

      Nah, this is guys a fuckwad.

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      I mean my kid will tell everyone who will listen about Pokemon cards, even complete strangers, so I dunno if it has anything to do with parenting.

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    I shocked that such a good Christian would allow his children to play Pokemon. I was told by a pastor a few years back that Pokemon was evil, Satan’s cards, etc., and that no good Christian family would allow their children to play it.

    I guess he’s a good political chameleon ! I mean he changed his stance on Trump.

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    Can I adopt JD Vance’s kid? Not because I particularly want to raise a child, but because that early enthusiasm shouldn’t be snuffed out by Vance, especially not when he’s talking to someone about whom he says:

    • “I’m a Never Trump guy.”
    • “My god, what an idiot.”
    • “America’s Hitler”
    • “Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”
    • “I can’t stomach Trump.”

    I agree with J. D. Vance’s factual quotes, but not his political ambition, which apparently caused him to reverse-course on all that and bend the knee. My personal conspiracy theory is Trump chose him as VP Nominee because that enables Trump to humiliate Vance with his past comments and current subservience…

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/jd-vance-donald-trump-comments-00168450

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    Seeing that picture reminded me his kids are biracial. So to add to this fatherhood moment: he also supports a man who doesn’t respect someone of mixed heritage, the very thing his own kids are.

    It’s not cognitive dissonance, it’s wilful suspension of the truth and the reason politics are driving wedges into our families and friends.

    Lastly, I’m not a conspiracy theorist but if another country wanted to destroy us from within this seems like a good way to do it.

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      Could happen that way, but I keep going back to the future timeline where fascists take over the US, fuck everything, decide war is the solution, then China puts them back in their place and reign as the world’s super power for the next 200 years.

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      I’m not a conspiracy theorist, either, but my preferred suspicion is that it’s aliens. They’ve tried a number of techniques, from implanting mind-control devices (Mitch McConnell and the way his face carries a look of horrified disgust at the things they make him do) to direct infiltration by putting one of their agents in an ill-fitting human suit (Ted Cruz). Ultimately, they seem to have given up the finesse approach, and settled on lobotomizing humans with existing personality disorders to create a RAID (redundant array of inexpensive dipshits) to simply overwhelm our system of government.

      It’s the only explanation that really makes sense to me.