Despite ACLU win in lower court, an appeal by the state means transgender kids and their families will feel the devastating effects of the ban.

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    Brought to you by the “don’t tread on me” folks who eagerly tread over anyone they don’t like.

    In this case, children with loving families. No one is forcing. left hands transness on kids you absolute ghouls. Let go of those perals, stop shouting “save the children” and stop telling kids they are wrong for writing (or living) that way.

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      I should share this with my mother who “feels like there are a lot more autistic people these days.”

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        You should! I mean, yeah, of course it has! As things become less stigmatized and especially in the case of autism, more ways are used to detect/diagnose then… Why wouldn’t it?

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            Honestly, I still think we are under-diagnosing. I routinely run into people that I’m 100% sure would be diagnosed if evaluated.

            Now, they are free not to seek a diagnosis for whatever reason, but the diagnosis rate is nowhere near the autism rate for the population.

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            Yes, let’s go with what the fields of psychiatry and psychology say on the subject of letting kids transition!

            The consensus being that transitioning is very good for trans kids and the best standard of care.

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          Let kids decide when theyre ready to drink and drive. They know themselves better than you know them.

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            The difference is that if ANYONE drinks and drives, there is a high chance of harming another. No one else is harmed, or even affected atll by someone transitioning. And the regret/detransition rate is astonishingly low. Never mind thr fact that puberty blockers and all options available to minors is reveraable.

            You are simply just trying to regulate what people do with their own body.

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              My god you are a fucking smoothbrain. If we dont let kids drink or drive we sure as fuck shouldnt let them try and physically alter their sex organs or their hormones. And the regret rate and suicide rate is notoriously high what the fuck are you even saying.

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                And the regret rate and suicide rate is notoriously high what the fuck are you even saying.

                You are falling for clickbait outrage headlines instead of the actual data. 1% of people that get gender surgery experince regret.

                Have you ever stopped to consider social stigma and the things you are saying why people experince regret? Societal pressure is immense for trans folk.

                Honestly, if you really are considered about people’s mental health. Then listen to psychology and let them transition in peace. It’s clinically proven to have the best outcomes.

                You can’t have it both ways. Do you want people’s mental health to improve, or do you want to ignore what psychiatrists suggest?

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          “Man legally changed gender to gain custody of his kids. Trans groups are concerned.”

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    Conservatism is bigotry, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, transphobia, antisemitism and generalized hate. Conservatives absolutely delight in the misery of the vulnerable.

    Teach your children why good people don’t do business or keep relationships with conservatives. Marginalize hate by marginalizing the hate group.

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      That’s the point. Transgender care for underage people consists of meds to hold off body changes (puberty) until they are old enough.

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        Are there any permanent effects on the body from this that will follow them into adulthood even if they stop taking them?

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      Denying children healthcare is child abuse. That is what you are supporting.

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      But Hall emphasized that these forms of care are—contrary to misinformation spread by the state’s lawyers—not only scientifically proven to be safe and effective, they are also essentially identical to forms of medical care offered to cisgender (non-trans) young people. For example, puberty blockers, which temporarily halt the advance of adolescence, are commonly prescribed to young cisgender girls undergoing “precocious” puberty. These same drugs also allow trans kids to make more deliberate choices about their bodies as they age into adulthood.

      The reason that this law exists is to hurt children, not protect them.

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      Oh hey, it’s you, spouting more transphobic bullshit again. Remember the other day when you were upset, thinking everybody was mad at you for no reason?

      This is the reason.

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        Oh i knew the reason. Yall are leftists and think consent doesn’t matter when its something you like.

        Also, yall ignore science when uts convient. Theres already a guy claiming puberty blockers doesn’t block puberty.

        Newsflash: they block puberty. Things like sterilization and lack of bone density.

        Heres a peer reveiwed study on puberty blockers and bone density. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9150228/

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          That’s really cool.

          That you can read, that is. Sorry, I should’ve clarified. It’s cool that you can read. I was starting to have doubts, after you failed to identify what part of My Shadow Is Purple equates to self-harm. You know, a children’s book that you seem to have been incapable of reading? That one. The one where I linked you to a video of the book being read aloud (just in case you couldn’t read), and you still didn’t provide an answer to. Remember that? I remember.

          Anyway. Now here’s a peer-reviewed study on the efficacy of gender-affirming healthcare:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9341318/

          Transgender patients experience disproportionate disparities in mental health, physical health, homelessness, and violence. These disparities are not inevitable, however. Gender-affirming care has consistently been shown to improve quality of life, improve health outcomes, and reduce rates of SI and SAs.

          Note from me, “SI” refers to “Suicidal Ideation” and “SA” refers to “Suicide Attempt”. Figured I should explain this, since I know with 100% certainty that you won’t bother to read the paper, just like you didn’t read My Shadow Is Purple.

          Or, here’s another study specifically about puberty blockers:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

          After adjustment for demographic variables and level of family support for gender identity, those who received treatment with pubertal suppression, when compared with those who wanted pubertal suppression but did not receive it, had lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation (adjusted odds ratio = 0.3; 95% confidence interval = 0.2–0.6).

          Fuck off with your bad faith arguments, bud. Seriously. You’re just straight-up objectively wrong in your beliefs, which are founded on misinformation and hate, and I will prove it to you every. single. fucking. time. if you allow me the opportunity.

          Since you didn’t read My Shadow Is Purple, here’s a quote from a book you’re probably more familiar with, judging from your deep-rooted hate:

          Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

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            Heres what we do for suicidal patients: we give them therapy and medication. So why is blocking puberty an exception? Because leftism is a cult?

            And my beliefs come from peer reviewed studies. Sorry you’re so anti-science, maybe you should rejoin the anti-vaxxers?

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              Heres what we do for suicidal patients: we give them therapy and medication.

              What the flying fuck do you think puberty blockers are, you absolute necrosed gonad?

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                The wrong medication, they block puberty. You want depression pills, SSRIs and the like.

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                  Puberty blocking is a form of therapy. Puberty blockers are a form of medication.

                  Gender dysphoria isn’t depression (look up “comorbidity”; it’s a big word, so I’ll give you some time), you wouldn’t treat it with antidepressants. That’s like taking an antacid for a headache.

                  “My beliefs come from peer reviewed studies” is such obvious horse shit. You didn’t read the studies I linked you to, clearly.

                  This conversation is done until you can prove to me that you’ve read and understood the studies provided to you. Since, y’know, that’s what your beliefs are supposedly based on. You can prove me wrong whenever.