Is he threatening us with a good time?
Everybody but his sorry ass. Warnings are for bad things. He is a bad thing so be warned
this is just an onion headline the onion didn’t do because they would feel like they were glazing Harris without merit
She’s a monster! A monster I tell you!
Every American having access to decent healthcare will cause a true meltdown of the GOP.
Terrifying.
“It’s the best health care in the world."
Referring to current private healthcare.
I hate to break it to everyone but she does not currently support single payer nor will her presidency push for it. (At least, that’s the message they’re putting out right now.)
Never forget that everything Trump says is a lie, even if it’s one you want to believe.
That said, I think it would be easier to drag her into it than Biden.
the article says she doesn’t support it
https://kamalaharris.medium.com/my-plan-for-medicare-for-all-7730370dd421
In 2019 she was for it.
Democrats don’t want to push the envelope though so it won’t happen.
~~Democrats ~~ Liberals don’t want to push the envelope
Spineless liberals are losing ground in the party. Status quo and subservience to banks is no longer popular in our party. Progressives are slowly overcoming liberals.
Liberals want to throw money at problems, ignoring root causes Progressives want to tackle the root causes
If we get supermajorities in the House and Senate it might. Otherwise, you’re probably right. When we have 50 dem senators and one of them is Joe Manchin, well…
Good news is we don’t have to worry about Manchin anymore. Bad news is that’s pretty much a GOP seat now.
Yeah, all the people bitching about Manchin never seem to get that the choice was always Manchin or a far right Republican, not Manchin or a west coast progressive.
You lost the ability to get anyone left of Manchin out of WV in 2000.
Yeah well if it’s anything like the Democrats were in Arizona until recently the state party is basically defunct. You’ll have professional politicians running against single issue school teachers. The DNC is not good with reaching out to help state parties. A large part of the reason the GOP hasn’t died from going far right is the Democrats seem happy to let them have rural states without any fight. Which of course means the people there only get one political point of view too.
We have elected officials literally making up lies about teachers here to get them fired. Our sheriff got away with it because he is immune. They used our tax dollars to pay her off he wouldn’t have to get embarrassed in court before re-election
He is a hardcore Trumper
Guys, no, we just need to run a far left lefty candidate in WV. This R+40 state is absolutely clamoring to vote for socialism because reasons. The Dems won’t do it, though (both sides bad). Also it has to be a Dem and not a grassroots movement because this R+40 state clamoring to vote for a real socialist needs a socialist with DNC backing before they’ll stop voting for racism.
Interestingly enough, WV used to be a safe blue state for most of the state’s history. Literally Gore ruined that.
Because they weren’t blue due to progressive social policy, they were blue because of the unions. Gore went after the biggest union industries in the state, and no Dem since has thought how to fix it.
Of all people, Bernie did really well in the 2016 primary, but since Clinton got ~35% compared to Bernie’s ~53% she of course got a majority of our state’s delegates (by one).
If you wanted to get a Dem to poll well here, you’d have to drop the gun stuff almost entirely (a lot of rural folks and a lot of hunters, a lot of woods full of wild animals [and those woods are directly adjacent to most populated areas - the entire state is forested mountains], etc), not lead with the progressive social justice stuff (not denounce it, not ignore it, just not treat it as the top priority and focus of your message - it’s there but it’s not what you’re selling yourself on), and then double down on working class concerns (this should be what you lead with and emphasize). Think something adjacent to social populism.
hilarious a state filled with fentanyl addicted welfare-queens is against socialism lol
I live near the border. that place is a dystopian redneck hellhole
That dream was gone when Bernie got screwed over. Won’t happen for a long time anyways.
That dream was gone circa 1993 when Hilary Clinton started stumping for it and became the GOP’s public enemy number one.
I hate to break it to everyone but she does not currently support single payer nor will her presidency push for it.
Yes, she is a Democrat.
Promise ʘ‿ʘ
If she did that I’d volunteer for her USSS detail. Can we be the Democrats the Republicans say we are?
I’d volunteer for her USSS detail
I wouldn’t - I want her to live.
It’s a pretty simple job though right? Just identify a shooter that’s like a 100 meters away and patiently wait for them to finish shooting before you jump on the President.
But seriously, the president that actually delivers on the next new deal might get term limits removed. It was popular the first time for a reason.
You forgot about grabbing the President’s special lift shoes after he gets shot at.
What a nightmare lol
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His point is just to find a way to scare his voters by calling her a communist. It’s the most pathetic attack ever.
Trump said of Harris: “She cosponsored legislation to abolish very popular private health insurance, which 150 [million] Americans rely on, dumping everyone onto inferior socialist government run health care systems with rationing and deadly wait times, while massively raising your taxes. She wants to take away your private health care.”
“It’s the best health care in the world,” he continued, adding: “You’re all going to be thrown into a communist system … You’re going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.”
This bullshit about rationing and deadly wait times can only work on the most ignorant people who don’t realize healthcare is better and more affordable in many other countries.
There may be a bit of “she won’t hurt the right people” in there too.
He’s not wrong about the wait times. It’s very true here in Canada.
This isn’t because healthcare is publicly funded.
Depends, I have a Canadian friend who got same day brain surgery, because it actually was an emergency. Most medical problems can stand a wait.
That being said, yeah waiting sucks. And yeah, the US has months long waiting periods too.
It’s also true of healthcare in the US. When my primary care provider left the practice and I had to reschedule with someone else, they weren’t able to get me in with someone new for another 8 months. And no one there is taking new patients. It’s also a months-long wait if you need to see any sort of specialist.
Not to mention I pay a lot of money for a health insurance plan that won’t even cover one of the meds I was recently prescribed because they disagreed with my provider’s prior authorization. Surprise, I have to see a specialist. So, we’ll see how it works out in 5 more months when my appointment is. At least I have an HMO plan, so I don’t need a separate appointment for a referral first before insurance covers it.
We already have wait times in the US too. That’s a funding and organizational problem, not a universal care problem.
Veteran here. The best healthcare I’ve gotten is consistently the appointments I have at the VA. Y’know… socialized healthcare. The VA has a reputation for being hot garbage - to my understanding they earned the hell out of that reputation, but made pretty massive improvements relatively recently. I only separated a few years ago, so I never say the earlier version.
…the infrastructure is kinda shit, and riding on those elevators is probably more dangerous than anything I ever did on active duty, but the actual health care? Zero complaints.
They do have wait times, but those are comparable to everywhere else.
We always talk about socialized healthcare like it’s some unicorn that only exists in other countries, but we’re already doing it… just, for some reason we’re only doing it for dipshits like me who wandered into the correct star-spangled employer to trade our lumbar vertebrae for a GI Bill.
Between that and the US Public Health Service (who might actually be unicorns… heard of them, but never actually seen one) we’ve got the framework for it. I wish we’d just add subdivisions to the USPHS. We already have the VA (which is curiously not affiliated with them… that surprises me), medicare, tricare, Indian Health Service… Start adding bite-sized categories according to need, and offer VA style coverage. Crime Victims Health Service… Students Health Service… Rent-Food-And-Utilities-Eats-60%±Of-Your-Income Health Service. Just keep expanding the mission and staffing accordingly. Switch VA hospitals to just ‘Federal Hospitals’ that offer VA services… and medicare… and students… etc. Eventually we’ll still be bashing heads about Universal Healthcare when… hey wait a minute! We fuckin have it already! Then just dissolve the stupid labels so you just check in as -a- patient instead of a VA patient. Or not. …probably not, tbh, the govt fucking loves stupid labels.
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…I don’t actually know why I typed all that out. That was way outside the scope of the comment I’m replying to. Um… I hope you enjoyed my almost-certianly-unrealistic-for-a-thousand-reasons-pipe-dream.
There’s only one reason why this is a pipe dream: there’s no political will to do it.
You know what has a longer wait time?
Not having medical coverage.
Imagine how long people have to wait if they are poor in the U.S.
Yeah, I wait for weeks for a normal check-in with my doctor as it is now. I can’t ever go to them when I’m actually sick, cause by the time I get an appointment, it’s like 1-2 weeks out. I’m no longer sick. I have to end up in minor emergency clinics all the time for just basic shit.
I love my doctor and use her any and every time I can, but it’s only for pre-planned checkups. God forbid I have to wait the same amount of time as now, and it BE FREE.
It’s true that there can be long waits. But public healthcare in Canada and in the UK is getting worse for the same reason: Conservatives refusing to fund it because they want to drive everyone into private, for-profit healthcare. It’s the same reason Conservatives try to break public education and other public services: they serve only the rich who will profit from privatization while everyone else suffers.
Conservatives run almost all Canadian provinces, which is the level at which healthcare is run. The Conservatives who are about to take over federally have explicitly stated their goal of making Canadian healthcare more like the USA’s. They undermine it for ideological reasons and for their own gain.
A properly funded public healthcare system remains the best system for ordinary people.
I absolutely agree.
I despise conservatives for trying to move us to the US model, especially as they’re trying to reward themselves, their buddies and anyone who has funded them. Bribery at its finest.
And yet people will fall for it. I swear they are beyond help. I listened to some of the boring travesty that is his latest press conference and - besides his notably low energy - it seems the lies are just getting bigger and more absurd. It boggles the mind that a huge chunk of the American people will listen to that drivel and nod and mutter “yeah sounds right”.
All this just reinforces how much of a cult MAGA is. He could say some outrageous shit like he was going to sacrifice his followers first born when he gets in office and I swear 95% of them would be like “oh cool”.
The whole thing is wild. I grew up in a Christian family… which republicans claim to be. If I did a tenth of what this dickhead does I’d get disowned so fast. His whole base thinks his shit don’t stink.
They absolutely will. By the truckloads, no less. You just can’t change stupid people. It’s a plague.
It’s more than just being about “stupid” people though. After all, who benefits from deliberately under-funding and attacking the integrity of educational institutions?
His point is just to find a way to scare his voters by calling her a communist. It’s the most pathetic attack ever.
Ironically Taiwan has universal health care and Communist China has employer based health care.
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