• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Pretty sure if he hasn’t been busted for the classified documents thing, he’s getting off scot-free for this one too.

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      17 days ago

      I think the main impact will be to convince a modest but significant slice of voters to not vote for him.

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      17 days ago

      This is more about some number of MAGAts suddenly going “wait a moment”. This is the thing that finally broke through for many.

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    17 days ago

    SO SERIOUS.

    This? This is the red line? Not January sixth? Or collusion with Russia? Or tax evasion? Or selling bibles he’s autographed? Or any of the federal laws he’s broken? 🙄

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      17 days ago

      “You gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know. Morons.”

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      17 days ago

      Humans have honored the dead since before homo sapiens. Laws can be complicated, contradictory, and confusing; respecting the dead is clear and primal.

      Yeah, this probably won’t change a lot of minds, but some folks will see there is something wrong about a man who would dishonor the dead to celebrate himself.

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        I appreciate your statement and generally agree. However, there is nothing complicated or contradictory about the harm caused in rape or the need to protect children from predators.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Just another example that in Trump world only one thing counts: Trump. There are no principles . America does not come first. It’s really just him. Incredible how people can vote for someone like that.

    • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      It very well could be the line among his supporters who are members of the armed forces, veterans, and their families.

      They might have overlooked all the scandals and outrageous things through his campaigns, presidency, and sedition, but this is where many of them have buried their spouses, grandparents, family, and friends.

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        17 days ago

        Currently seeing it happen, buddies who had overlooked issues in the past have started to look at him negatively. Before it was “he has always treated us right.” Now they might write in Rand Paul.

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          ‘He had always treated us right’ lmfao. And they didn’t get a medical discharge for blindness? Because they are blind.

          • Dodged Vietnam by making up a case of ‘bone spurs’ that magically disappeared afterward
          • ‘I like people who weren’t captured’ to POW and war hero John McCain, repeatedly
          • 2018, Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris. ‘In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.’
          • Called retired 4-star general John Allen a ‘failed general’, a cursory glance at his Wikipedia page or defense.gov page should illustrate why that’s absurd.
          • skipped out on visits to nearly every military cemetery he’s ever been invited to, usually because he’s afraid of the rain. He’s more worried about getting his hairpiece wet than he is worried about paying respect to men and women who died for America to lead to him standing where he is. After seeing his visit to Arlington that’s probably a good thing that he’s afraid of the rain and didn’t go to the others.

          And those are just the really big and obvious ones that I remember and can easily look up quotes about. I guarantee you that’s not even a third of the list of the times he’s actively disrespected the military.

          Trump doesn’t give half a fuck about you guys, you are not people in his eyes, you’re just guns on legs. He thinks it is your destiny to go die making him a profit, for the simple reason that you are a lower class than he is. If you listen to the statements that come out of his very own mouth it is obvious how he feels this way.

    • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      17 days ago

      Liberals are gonna shake their heads REALLY hard this time. They might even say “tsk tsk” under their breath.

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      I think that most Americans, regardless of political affiliation and regardless of how they feel about the various wars we’ve been in over the centuries, find the idea of using our honored dead as political props profoundly offensive. I personally hope that this is the red line finally and the bastard can start facing some real consequences.

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      17 days ago

      There’s a chunk of the population for whom this is a very big deal, and it’s easy to communicate what happened.

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        17 days ago

        And it’s bound to come up at the debate (if the debate happens). Some of his low-info voters will hear about it for the first time that night, and it being a simple thing is important in that scenario.

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        17 days ago

        Right! This is far from the WORST thing he’s done but this plays so poorly with his god-fearing, gun-totin’ patriotism cosplayers.

        It’s fine with me. Keep taking L’s donnie!

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          I agree with you but it should never be left unmentioned that anyone who’s not mentally ill enough to let themselves be brainwashed into his cult, I.e. the people who still have some thinking ability left, but still isn’t completely put off by him since Birtherism, is a bad guy and will not be easily welcomed back into society.

          In a way the totally crazy Trump fans can be let off easier because they don’t know what they’re doing.

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          17 days ago

          Thing is, they’re just cosplayers. You don’t obligate yourself to give a fuck about honor just because you dress up like a Klingon.

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        17 days ago

        Even the politically obtuse people still honor veterans. This story breaks out of the conservative news silos and the tribal hometown bars.

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          17 days ago

          I guess America has to go chunk by chunk instead of NEVER IN FIRST PLACE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS GUY IN CULTURE, BUSINESS, OR POLITICS. Sorry I yelled.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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      17 days ago

      Every little bit helps

      Also it helps that he’s going progressively off the rails as time goes on, so his reaction to getting caught for this stuff is getting less and less hinged month by month

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        The more population groups he (and by association the GOP) pisses off, the better. May the GOP pay dearly for choosing Trump as their Führer.

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      16 days ago

      January 6th is not seen as an insurrection but as citizens banding together to protect democracy. Collusion with Russia was always seen as a false attempt to make him look bad, especially with things like the dossier being faked. Tax evasion is considered smart if you can do it legally, and the New York prosecution for what the industry considers standard practice reinforced the perspective that it was weaponizing the justice system. Autographed bibles are no more sacrilegious than any of the megachurch/televangelist who buys a private jet because God wants him to to.

      Each one of those hurtles may take someone out of his camp, but for some that will only be if there is a viable alternative. Keep in mind that the alternative on the democratic side is trying to end their 2nd amendment rights, open the borders to secure a permanent underclass voting block, and lose the national protection of God by persecuting Christians. It doesn’t matter to what degree any of that is true, that is the hurtle they have to clear.

      Since armed service is venerated more on the right than the left, and has higher percentages of veterans and their children, this might indeed be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for some or many. He is grifting in so many areas, that if he is also shown to be a grifter on respecting the armed services in addition to being a false Christian and 1 percenter elite then parts of his base might see him as no better than the Democrats.

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      16 days ago

      Also exposed our perception capabilities by distribution of imagery in it’s native resolution.

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    His cultists don’t give a fuck. They don’t give a fuck about anything. He didn’t lose any votes here

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      Violating women ✔️ Violating minorities ✔️ Violating lgbtq+ ✔️ Violating third world countries ✔️ ✅️ Violating federal and state laws ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ Being a treasonous pos while peddling Russian propaganda and their… checks notes… beans? ✔️ x’s 10

      Violating deceased American war heros graves??? Check ✔️ 😕

      Violating the oval office worse that bill and Monica ✔️

      Not to mention the many 70 something election/ fraud/ real estate crimes he has committed.

      What’s next? Is trump gonna break into my house and violate me? Unfortunately he already has, he’s violated every single us citizen by infringing upon our rights as Americans and I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna let this orange cunt into my house again, bc that’s what happens if he wins, we are allowing djt into our homes, our schools, our hospitals and beyond.

      My fellow dems, arm yourself, be prepared for the worst

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        17 days ago

        arm yourself

        Not good enough. You have to practice safety, learn the laws, learn your weapon, put a couple thousand rounds downrange, all that. But thank you for your support, I’m right with ya.

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        And the dead. Remember when he buried his ex wife at his golf club so it would qualify as a cemetery and get tax exempt status.

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        Don’t forget that he excels at cheating on wives, bankrupting businesses, and stealing money from cancer charities (among other notable achievements)

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        Or anyone who isn’t him. I think he complains that the people who changes his diaper are too rough on him.

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    And he fucking does not care about it. According to him, the people buried there are “losers”, in case you have forgotten.

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    And when you’re a maga they’ll let you do it. Thumbs up in the graveyard, insurrection in the Capitol, you can do anything.

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      No shit, right? It’s not just Trump. There’s a whole lotta people there. Completely free from consequences, every single one.