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        Reddit isn’t really a place for discussion. It’s a place you go to have a specific opinion or get banned. You choose the “room” with your opinions and express only those in the instructed method on the sidebar. Any dissonant opinions, facts or arguments and you’re banned. So really, more like a place for agreement if anything (or disagreement of the opposite view, but only that and no other disagreement).

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        Not to defend the mods, since I’m not going back to Reddit even to read a post, but mods also have to make sure the discussion can happen. You can’t just have one big fat orange guy shouting down everyone else and call it a discussion. Even “free speech” needs to follow some rules, starting with respecting others’ right to free speech, and you’re not free from the consequences of your speech.

        Let’s take the atrocity in Israel as a prime example. It’s surely a horror we should be outraged by and demand action, but why is it coming up in a discussion about police abuse of force? I’ll support you being outraged for that cause, but you need to respect that there are other causes as well and that we have the right to freely discuss without someone derailing it by shouting down the discussion

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          I don’t have an issue with reasonable moderation, but I object to the idea that every pattern of moderation should just be accepted and that censorship isn’t a problem worth worrying about.

          Reddit doesn’t have a modlog, so most of the removed comments are lost forever and there is no accountability for them, but a few of them can be seen through Reveddit, and the ones I see are not off topic or ideological rants. For instance the first one I see is

          Are they going to shoot up the wrong car with innocent ladies in it again looking for this guy? Edit: Guess they managed to take him down without hitting any civilians, I guess good job for only killing the bad guy

          Obviously referring to the Chris Dorner shootings which would be very relevant here, in a very reasonable way. I think it’s fair to assume that r/news moderators simply don’t want that guy mentioned at all.

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        I agree with you but that’s the direction everyone else wants to go because places that aren’t heavily censored “become right wing hives,” and therefore the more censorship the better. It happens here on .ml too.

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          I honestly can’t understand that. Discussion boards are where opposing views come to clash. That’s what creates meaningful dialogue. I am politically centrist and i find myself sometimes agreeing and disagreeing with the left and the right. What these people mean about “right wing hives” is forums where conservative opinions exist.

          If we’re just creating spaces that share only one political ideology, where we ban everyone disagreeing, how can we ever learn from each other ? What value is there in spaces where opinions are homogeneous and we only see people shouting opinions over the wall to the other group ? It’s just a circlejerk at that point, and i have nothing against circlejerk per se, it’s just that politics is very ill fitting for such types of forums.

          Since the times of Greek democracies and republics, disagreement and factionalism has been a part of growth for political discourse. I believe we shouldn’t shy away from that at all.

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    The ones that weren’t deleted yet were commenting about what the officer was doing.

    I’m going to bet the whole comment thread will be nuked.

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      It’s adorable that you think the same shit doesn’t happen here. I’d urge you to read the mod logs.

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      Not defending cops here. Did you know that it used to be illegal to help slaves escape slave states? The more you know. 🌈

      Anyway, I can’t tell if this is a sarcastic comment by you or not so… Uh… Please say sike?

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    r/news has the worst moderators on reddit by far. Like I seriously suspect they’re children.

    Was banned for calling out atrocities by Israel. And this was long before October 7th. The way they responded in DM made them sound like I was arguing with a 14-year-old.

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      Mods absolutely made reddit unusable for me. I mainly lurk in the news subreddits and they’re all the same. I got perma banned and instantly muted on some news subreddit i don’t really recall for saying an article’s title was clickbait. I got perma banned on worldnews and news for different instances of criticizing Israel.

      I even tried using the platform to do other non politics things, like commenting on those am i wrong type of subreddits and got perma banned for not being supportive. Got banned in about half a dozen, despite never being there, for commenting on other subreddits.

      I honestly cannot understand how people use the site without being permabanned nearly everywhere. You don’t even need to be combative. They use permaban for literally any minor infringement or disagreement that turns up and then mute you if you try to discuss it. It’s so frustrating. Thank goodness for Lemmy. There’s a lot of weird propaganda here, but at least you’re not permabanned.

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        No idea. They hid behind anonymity of the ModTeam account.

        Worldnews deteriorated as well.

        Frankly all subs took a major dive following the controversial API change. A lot of seasoned mods with a moral backbone left and yes-men puppets replaced them.

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    Texans lawmakers are going to push a new law making it illegal to record police and cite this incident, guaranteed.

    That was the top comment.

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    You are going to ignore that this same shit happens right here on lemmy?

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      Of course they lack any balls to respond. Community here is mostly bunch of garbage socialists and communists patting each others backs.