• Rolando@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I had a friend who grew up in a factory town who could not only recognize most car makes and models, but in some cases could name people who probably worked on that car. I still think our culture is too car-centered, but that have me a new perspective on it.

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    14 days ago

    Shrimp actually have less color range.

    They’ve got more receptor types in their eyes than humans, but lack the ability to interpolate any mixed color data they’re receiving, so they basically only see the 12 colors/shades while humans perceive an entire spectrum.

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          13 days ago

          Hmmm I just read the study and while a plausible explanation it doesn’t seem to be a settled matter.

          You could have specified you were speaking about mantis shrimp to begin with and skipped being snarky for no reason.

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    13 days ago

    I’m the same. people ask about a car and I’m like, i don’t know it had like four wheels probably.

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      14 days ago

      In a tiny font on the back of the car? Like sure jerk off over your car knowledge but that’s the dumbest way to say “duhhh everyone should know every car make and model” I’ve ever heard

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          14 days ago

          Literally the only part I was okay with was you knowing it. Congratulations! Acting smug that others don’t is what makes you unbearable.

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            14 days ago

            Maybe pay attention to the world around you. It’s literally readily available information that you can see with your own eyes. I’m not a car guy but I can remember reading things I see. Congratulations, you’re the asshole!

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          No, he’s mad at you claiming you can read text on a car 20m away, even though that text is so small, that no normal person can read it a few meters away unless you already know what it’s saying.

          So in essence, what you’re saying is not false, but the context makes it an obvious lie. Combined with the “hurr durr, I can read” subtext, it comes off as asshole behavior.

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            14 days ago

            Hur dur, I can read. It’s called walking by parked cars. I read it then and remember it when I’m driving. It’s really not hard. You guys being so ignorant comes off as asshole behavior.

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              14 days ago

              Not remembering random husks of metal on the street isn’t ignorance, it’s called “not being into cars”. I know that’s really hard to understand for some people, but for a significant chunk of the population cars don’t matter at all.

              And if you can’t understand that your interests are not universal, that’s kind of the definition of ignorance.

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                I’m not into cars, I just read things and start associating their names to the objects. Not fucking hard. You assuming that I like something just because I can read and name it is very ignorant. Or is that just something you do, avoid reading and learning what things are called just because you don’t like them.

                Maybe if you weren’t such a condescending asshole you’d realize that we share the same disinterest in “random husks of metal” that are major impacts to global warming and micro plastics.

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                Random hunks of metal on the street? These streets are fucking made for those hunks of metal and entire cities designed around them. There are like 50 total models in any given country, we’re not over here reading car encyclopedias for fun facts, we have just seen the same 50 “random hunks of metal” and remembered the most common 20.

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                  Yeah, me knowing model names is more a product of the system we live in rather than my interest in cars. I’m more interested in the mechanics and engineering behind cars than cars themselves. But that could be said for a lot of things.

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                You don’t have to be into them to recognize some of the distinctions of something so ubiquitous. They’re all over the place, and have a huge impact on your life, whether you’re interested or not.

                I’m not into birds, those pesky disgusting rats with wings, but they’re all over the place. I’m occasionally aware enough to recognize some of their differences and be able to identify a few types on sight. And they don’t even have the species marked anywhere I can read to feedback to improve my knowledge

                Don’t you want some warning whether a particular one is more likely to poop on you or steal your sandwich?

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          14 days ago

          A great example where it would be incredibly useful to recognize a Deisel vs EV: which exhaust would you rather inhale?

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    It’s like reading. I don’t look at letters and think “that’s an A and that’s a B”.

    It’s just “Miata, Civic, Explorer, etc”

    Or recognizing people. I just know all these strangers names and faces.

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      Same, it’s such a stupid thing to live & take up space in your brainhole.

      Like a 100 different brands of cereal - we should have way less “types” & just make the quality better, make them last, stop rewarding financial success to what overall costs more.

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        Why would you think it’s stupid to recognize visual patterns?

        We’re hard wired to be able to recognize human faces and all sorts of meaning behind a single face, from the person’s age to their emotional state. We can extend that complex pattern recognition skillset to dog breeds, animals, tree species, fruits, vegetables, paintings, flower types, colors, and all sorts of patterns from the natural world. Even the shape of clouds tell us something about the weather, and the color of a wound can tell us something about how it’s healing (or not).

        Human-created patterns are easy to memorize, too: letters, numbers, fonts, patterns, fabrics, clothing types, symbols, emojis, warning labels, signs that mean “no smoking” or “emergency exit this way,” etc.

        So is it that much of a stretch that we can recognize an impressionist painting or an Art Deco building or even specific examples of those, and remember the artist/architect and maybe even things like the year it was created, and where it is physically located? If we’re doing that kind of stuff seamlessly with our brains, recognizing a few dozen car models seems trivial in comparison.

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          Why would you think it’s stupid to recognize visual patterns?

          Well, not stupid, thats just memetics and a key feature of basically any brains/neural networks, but humans pushed a lot of that into the subconscious levels in favour of simplified info being presented to the conscious thought patterns.

          But I can’t help it regardless of context not requiring a bit more “technical” info (most is the time useless) that most dont.
          A stupid example: “someone was ‘hit by a car’/‘hit by a Miata’” … if the convo isnt about how/what/where was broken then the extra info of ‘a geometrically lower impact body with probably lower impact force bcs of low weight’ is useless from a social pov. Yet I need or wish to know it just to “understand” the info being conveyed (I’m bad at choosing words, but I feel like social interactions without a bit more technical or exact data like that cost me extra energy and it depletes my social batteries quicker).

          But everything you said I completely agree with, basically just facts.

          seamlessly

          Recognise yes, drop it & use it further as an idea is what “I don’t want to do as much as possible”.

          Like numbers you mentioned, most of us can ‘understand directly’ what 1, 2, or 3 is, but “what” 10 is is already a stretch for most & we just use the idea of 10. Which makes us incredibly more efficient at abstract numbers compared to monkeys which basically have the same brains (just different parts developed differently). But we also lose all the intricate (but useless!) info.

          Weird thing about numbers (and such) is that even abstract ideas we tend to perceived them on log scales, just like with more direct external stimuli (such as light, sound, etc and how that gets physically registered and then perceived).

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    Hey, the whole thing about shrimp is a misunderstanding. They have more receptors for different colors, yes. But it’s because their brain is so rudimentary that they can’t combine the input from 3 color receptors to perceive more colors; they need a separate color receptor for every single color.

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      I do birb al plant groups too (tho badly)!

      But I cannot fucking remember dog breeds at all, or even distinguish between them properly.

      I’m much better at identifying cats. Its just a cat, kitty, a chonker even sometimes.

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      14 days ago

      I can do it with tallship designs from the age of sail, there’s more of them floating around than you might think.

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      13 days ago

      It was fun the first time I successfully identified a species of maple from almost a mile away (it was a silver, not super hard lol)

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      I’ve slowly worked on my wife and now she properly identifies species of local birds unprompted. I’m so proud of her.

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    14 days ago

    TIL I’m shrimp (prob bcs of all the PC gaming).

    Which is fantastic news since it means my progression towards crab is going along nicely.

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    Generally you can pretty accurately estimate the years (and make) of cars, due to the design preferences of the time

    A 2003 Toyota Tacoma is very recognizable because of the simple and bubbly design a lot of late 90’s and early 2000’s cars had (coincidentally my least favorite time period of car design)

    Of course there’s also just a lot of stuff you pick up by seeing a car you don’t recognize, researching it, and mentally noting the differences for the next time you see one!