Why doesn’t this exist?
Take dried beans, roast 'em, grind 'em, and brew some bean juice?
I have no idea if it would taste good or not, but we don’t know if we don’t try.
Edit: I need to see what dried beans I have and maybe go shopping. I will give this a try with a couple different types of beans and report back if I fart or not.
Coffee beans aren’t beans. There are some beans that are roasted as a substitute for coffee, like the seeds of the Kentucky coffeetree. In times of shortage, people have tried many things to replace coffee, like dandelion and chicory root. For the most part, the substitutes arent as good as the original, so people don’t stick with them. There’s a chance someone has tried to roast and brew pinto beans or whatever, but they probably taste bad.
Because we’re not criminally insane.
But since we’re on this fascinating topic, here’s a Youtube video about other things people have tried to substitute for coffee during the American civil war. (Hint: not beans.)
This is/c/nostupidquestions though
But not /c/nostupidanswers.
Maybe impolite ones?
Let us know how it goes
A vanilla soy late is actually a 3 bean soup.
Unfortunately only in culinary terms, as neither vanilla nor coffee beans are true beans
I strongly suspect that many of these things have already, uh, been tried.
As for those that clearly made it through at least one round of testing, a self-styled “Weird Explorer” has a YouTube series called “That’s not coffee” where he - and occasionally a friend or two - reviews some of them.
Not sure if there’s anyone on there who has tried roasting and grinding other sorts of beans for science though. The closest I can think of is the various creators making tofu alternatives from beans that aren’t soy, which kind of turns the whole thing on its head: Could you make a tofu from coffee beans? (I’m guessing not, but that’s another for-science idea.)
Because it would taste disgusting, and it doesn’t have caffeine, so there’s no motivation to drink it.
Edit: I need to see what dried beans I have and maybe go shopping. I will give this a try with a couple different types of beans and report back if I fart or not.
Hope you have some alpha-galactosidase at your disposal.
The simplified explanation: A reason beans give some people gas is due to certain types of sugars and carbohydrates they contain. Those sugars are water soluble. Seems like brewing beans would concentrate those sugars and lead to epic tootage.
Also, one method for reducing how much gas that beans cause is to soak them in lots of water. Basically, soak them for up to 8 hours, drain, rinse, and repeat a couple more times. It works on the same principal, that the soaking process will remove at least some of the problematic, water soluble sugars. Supposedly adding a small amount of baking soda helps, too. I’m less certain about that.
Also aren’t kidney beans highly poisonous when consumed dried?
Yes, many beans are, but kidney beans more than most. They need to be soaked and cooked for a significant amount of time to neutralize the toxins.
How bad are the toxins? How sick will they make you?
“Epic tootage”
I think that was a Miles Davis album
I think Alton discusses this on Good Eats, and a long soak doesn’t really make a difference (according to him).
He did have a solution, I just don’t recall. May have been baking soda.
Oh, if Alton said that then it must be true. Who’s Alton?
Alton John, a famous musician who sings about food.
Any relation to Elton? He sings about food sometimes, too.
I told you, Good Eats. I wasn’t ambiguous. And he gives chemistry reasons why.
He has a food chemist that explains things.
So stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.
Ignoring the fact that coffee beans aren’t beans, for the same reason we don’t make tea with just any leaf. Someone braver than you tried it and it was disgusting.
We do make tea with a lot more plants than people realize though.
Absolutely that’s why I didn’t specify a leaf type. Probably could have said poison ivy and been fine though
Anything is edible. Once.
Dont they make Tea out of stinging nettles or something?
I’ve tried hibiscus tea which is nice even without the sugar.
No, tea is the name of the plant. If its not made from tea leaves its not bloody tea!!
I’m gonna go and brew myself a nice and relaxing lavender verbena tea.
You can have the “bloody tea” yourself (which sounds disgusting btw I’d prefer my tea plant based, thank you very much).
Oh apologies Commissar, I didn’t realize! I’m just a poor American coffee drinker.
Or toxic! Don’t forget toxic.
Or even psychedelic. Don’t think I need to say not to forget it, because I’m sure you won’t be able to 🫠
Tisane to be pedantic
Coffee comes from cherrys
I guess you mean “berries”
A coffee bean is a seed from the Coffea plant and the source for coffee. It is the pit inside the red or purple fruit. This fruit is often referred to as a coffee cherry, and like the cherry, it is a fruit with a pit.
I know how it works and I’ve seen coffee plants in real life. I didn’t know the fruit is called a cherry in English. They don’t look much like cherries apart from being red…
So going by OP’s analogy, we should make cherry juice out of all the varieties of cherries.
You can make cherry juice, but presumably you’d do that by crushing the cherry meat to extract the juice. That’s different from how coffee is made. To create cherry coffee, we’d have to take the cherry pits, dry them, roast them, grind them, then pour hot water over them.
Come again?
COFFEE COMES FROM CHERRYS
But it’s already popped.
Coffee is more red/brown than black.
Coffee “beans” are closer to cherry pits than any real bean.
What about toe beans?
Their beauty is beyond compare.
They aren’t close to cherry pits at all.
You could try drinking the juice out of a can of beans 😹
A lot of things in botany have similar names, but are totally different things. A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC), a “peanut” is no nut, either.
So it should not surprize when one learns that the Cofea plant is a Rubiaceae family plant, not a Fabaceae/Leguminosae family plant, i.e. what we commonly call “beans” like green beans, peas, or, amazingly, peanuts. It is just called a “coffee bean” because it reminded someone back in time of a bean, shapewise.
A “strawberry” is a berry only by names (it’s closest relative is the hazelnut, IIRC),
Close relatives to strawberries are other similar plants like Sibbaldia. More distantly related are roses and lots of other fruits like raspberries, apples, peaches and so on. Hazelnuts are even more distantly related (not super far, but also not super close). You’re probably thinking of hazelnuts because the small seeds on strawberries are technically nuts.
So if it’s not a bean, what is it? It’s not the fruit, so is it the seed?
IIRC its more like a pit than a seed, but yeah
It actually is the seed of the coffee plant.
The question still stands… Where is my hot green bean juice?!
Have you tried making it yourself? Try roasting and grinding some dried peas or lentils, and report back how you liked that “bean-coffee”. Nobody is going to stop you. Do it FOR SCIENCE!
I drank it in Taiwan. It’s just one of many drinks made from ingredients we never thought of, like mushroom drinks and cereal grain drinks.
Just wanted to add that tea with black beans, red beans, roasted barley, roasted rice etc are common in Japan. I assume Taiwan has the same, judging from the drinks posted above (the label even says the Japanese name in roman letters).
Barley tea is delicious.
ITT: Because it would be and possibly poisonous.