Why against multipolarity despite many socialist state arise after ww1 and even more after ww2 end? I ask this question because I see many people in r/communism view multipolarity negatively.

  • culpritus@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I think there is likely some western chauvinism element to a lot of newer leftists that are not in favor of multipolarity. The propaganda doesn’t wash away from the mind so quickly for many. So they have a tendency to think Actual Existing Socialist states are not valid in some way because they have not learned anything beyond the propaganda.

    In their minds, this would make multipolarity messy. Better to have a global authority to keep order. And yet they call those in favor of multipolarity authoritarians.

    • Comrade Boina@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      How do you reconcile that with the fact the vast majority of the IMCWP stands close to or right on the KKE’s position on the whole shitshow in Ukraine?

      Are these all “new communists”? Seems to me that’s more like the OG guard that safeguarded ML wherever they were throughout the liquidationist and opportunist shitshow that was the 90s to the 2000s.

      I’m the first one to call out ultra-leftism but it seems to me there is a certain bias to right deviation in here.

      I would wager it is because most comrades here are unfortunately not active organizationally, may that be in their local youth league or party. As much as this space is great, it smells a bit overly online. That’s understandable tho

      • AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Since multipolarity today depends on PRC not making moves to become yet another hegemon, it also depends on one’s position on China.

        You may have a point in who leans in which direction, in that comrades that have been organised for some time have a bias against China, but that’s not a clever value judgement. Since older comrades lean this way, and the leadership are older in many parties, unions etc, it makes sense that this bias would be made official policy.

        It might read like I’m devaluing it calling it bias, and that’s exactly what I am because that’s all that it is. I say this having talked to many of them and seen the clear contradiction in the party policy. Old leftists are quite often parroting anticommunist tropes re China, such as no freeze peach, no free thought, or direct quote ”They run people over with tanks over there." These people aren’t stupid, they just come from a time when China didn’t respond to western misinformation.