automod filters made reddit an absolute nightmare. pouring my heart out on the depression sub and getting it removed because it didn’t have 300 characters or it was image post saturday or god knows what. you basically just don’t get to post on any sizable sub — before it was at least a lottery! post, see if people will like it! but now you can’t even get a post through!

there are 50 automod filters on everything, forbidden words or topics, perfectly good questions cast away to megathreads no one reads!

it’s a dire, awful landscape, and really terrible user experience, having something on your chest and wanting to post, but oh hey this won’t be posted until our ‘mod team’ ‘reviews’ it. isn’t that what voting is for? please stop treating me like a spambot or troll by default!

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    1 year ago

    Yeah. Karma requirements pretty much just force you to make a few comments without being an asshole to anyone before you can post. This seems like a fairly low bar to me, at least for anyone who’s not an asshole.

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      Its reddit, so what you really mean is “karma requirements pretty much just force you express opinions the botfarms and terminally online agree with for a while”

      I could deal with the doxxing and such by just routinely deleting my account to maintain opsec (deleted a bunch of high karma accounts). The reason I finally left reddit was the downvote brigades for any opinions that weren’t specifically aligned with the zeitgeist.

      What’s even the point? If I want my opinions artificially implanted in me, I’ll just go watch cable news.

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        1 year ago

        Look while I do agree Reddit can be a bit of an echo chamber, what you’re saying is you struggle to interact with a community in a way that the people in that community are happy with. I’m not suggesting that you are a trolling fuckbag intent on only starting fights and drama for their own amusement, but what you want to be able to do without restriction is the same as what a trolling fuckbag intent on only starting fights and drama for their own amusement would want…

        I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, I just don’t think it’s a good enough reason to decide minimum karma limits aren’t valuable.

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          Since most redditors fail at voting and use the buttons as “I agree” or “I disagree” buttons, it becomes pretty easy to have a normal mainstream opinion and get absolutely crucified because you accidently wandered into yet another echo chamber. Let’s say hypothetically that you were a new reddit user and not a user for over 10 years, and you walk in and say a normie opinion, and then get downvoted into oblivion by an echo chamber. What does that look like to the victim of the downvote brigade?

          Originally downvotes didn’t matter, they were just imaginary internet points. With automod minimum karma limits, for a brand new user, now not only did your post get piledriven into the dirt for what would normally be an uncontroversial opinion, but now your ability to interact elsewhere on reddit has been compromised.

          After that, lots of people who might otherwise be good users will just say “forget that” and leave, further enforcing the echo chamber.

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      It does get ridiculous when subs have 2k karma requirements or like 2 year old account requirements.