We set up a bridge between the Lemmy.world General Matrix room and the Public-1 channel on the Lemmy World discord server yesterday. It’s not perfect as emoji reactions aren’t visible and some minor things like how it handles edited messages but other than that it seems to be working well.

Now people on both chat clients can interact with eachother!

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    1 year ago

    When you’re constantly getting attacked and having issues, sometimes you need to do stuff you don’t want to do, just to be able to get stuff done.

    In a perfect world I think devs wouldn’t want to use Discord, but it’s one of the only options that won’t be constantly taking down with attacks.

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      Plus Matrix is something that is still new to people and some users are more comfortable with Discord. Many users are still adjusting to the concept of Lemmy and how federation works. Fortunately this bridge will help the two groups connect to each other and maybe in the future we can move to only using Matrix.

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      1 year ago

      What has Discord anything to do with any attacks, or preventing any of them?

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        1 year ago

        If lemmy is being attacked, mods need a platform to coordinate.

        Discord has DDOS protection through their hoster, which was the primary means of attacks on lemmy.

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            I can’t answer that, but my rebuttal would be these are targeted attacks, I don’t doubt they would attack matrix if lemmy was using it to coordinate.

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              1 year ago

              Matrix is federated, supports private channels, encryption, and cryptographic user signatures. It’s basically un-attackable (unless you open a channel to everyone).

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                The average user will not give a damn about any of the things you mentioned.

                And tell me how to set up a matrix server that is invite only with one link instead of having to invite them all one by one?

                Yes for most of the stuff matrix is good and I like it. But pretending it’s s complete replacement for discord is simply not true.

                Even besides that, which one is more popular do you think? Which one has the most reach and people are most familiar with? Most people don’t care if it’s foss or not, they’ll use what everyone is using.

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                  Ok… let me start by saying that I’m not trying to tell you what to do, just that I don’t think those arguments are all that solid.


                  The topic was to coordinate in case of an attack, so you’d probably want to verify identities and avoid imposters, which Discord “kind of” does through things like its integrations with other ID services… but there’s nothing like a good cryptographic signature. Discord has a “report raid” option for a reason, it isn’t bulletproof.


                  how to set up a matrix server that is invite only with one link instead of having to invite them all one by one?

                  Maybe.

                  A whole server, can be done, but why? A private space, or private room… I guess you still need to use a bot to invite from a link.

                  There are some bots out there with other interesting features though, like a “knock” option to let admins/mods know of join requests and accept/reject, or a setup where they use two rooms: one public, for everyone to join, with a bot that you can ask nicely for an invite to the private one.

                  Strictly speaking, all Discord features and more are possible via Matrix bots… but probably not yet available through a user friendly GUI, if that’s what you mean.


                  which one is more popular

                  Nowadays, either is a click away; whether the web UI, or some app in an app store.

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                    Why would you need to verify identity’s to avoid imposters when this is set up ahead of time?

                    I’m user x here and user y there….

                    How is this so hard for you to comprehend?

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                If you think any of that matters (they’ve been attacked before… so I really don’t know why you think it’s not possible) you are hella naive.

                And most of those apply to lemmy, and other federated communities, and guess what, all been attacked!

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                  most of those apply to lemmy

                  Except the private, encrypted, and verified identities parts. So essentially nothing other than being federated.

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                    1 year ago

                    Lots of registrations are private, it’s a choice and some require email verification, arguably the same and agin, it’s a choice on your instance.

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        1 year ago

        How are they supposed to make announcements if the site is down?.. That was the whole point when there were so many attacks/site outtages.