tl;dr: let’s stop the generic and almost-irrelevant-doom-and-gloom karma-harvesting one-liners that can be copy-pasted between any two articles written in the last century

Background

Anyone who has used Reddit for any decent period of time is probably aware of the drill – when you create an account, unsubscribe from the defaults and find the smaller communities. It will end up in a better experience.

Why were people told to dodge the defaults? They were the largest subreddits. But because they were large, the quality was often regarded as “meh” due to post and comment quality.

How bad was it? You’d find news posted about something, then you’d click into the comments, find they’re something to read, then move on.

A week passes and an article on a similar subject comes up. You click into the comments and a sense of “Is this deja-vu?” is felt. Is this comment thread for the article this week, or the article from last week?

Turns out, the discussion was too generic. It wasn’t uniquely thought provoking to the article posted. The comments didn’t offer much and could be copy-pasted between many news posts spanning any given year.

Reddit became boring after picking up on this pattern, especially as this became the norm on so many communities. The comments served as candy for feeding a doom-scrolling habit. At times I’d joke to myself that I could predict what the upvoted comments would be.

Why do I bring this up?

I’ve noticed that commentary in the most popular communities have been flooded with unsubstantial commentary as of late – the type of commentary that could be copy-pasted between almost any two articles in a given month. It feels like cheap karma acquisition, even though Lemmy doesn’t really incentivize karma.

The Lemmy community has a lot of energy and a lot of people who want to see it succeed. I do too.

So what should we do?

I am advocating that we collectively try to put in more thought in our discussions. I think Hackernews (sans the occasional edgy political take) and Tildes might be worth learning from. Let’s make it a goal to contribute content that others may learn from and do away with the copy-paste doom-and-gloom comments.

Just unsubscri-

Yes, the popular refrain to a lot of concerns about Lemmy is “just unsubscribe from those and join another community”. I disagree that is the right solution. This isn’t limited to just one or two communities of a given type and what habits are created in one community easily spread to others due to the very large overlap in users.

  • cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.meEnglish
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    1 year ago

    If you came across a thread that was more than 30 minutes old, there was little point in making a longish, thoughtful and nuanced response as it would be burred at on page 4 and lucky to be seen by anyone. Let alone read by someone who would take it on board and reply to any points you made in a meaningful way.

    Only if you are reading/posting in defaults or similar super-mainstream subs. I rarely encountered posts with multiple pages, certainly not after 30 minutes (outside my one main sub, ELI5, there what you wrote is indeed true, though some of your points were helped by proper moderation), I just checked, and all the big subs I used to visit are only in the 200-300k subscriber range. I used to have one even larger (/r/fantasy, left because too many WoT-book-fans were toxic assholes), but even with their 3 million subs it wasn’t as you described.

    So yeah, I’ll have to disagree there, it was not my experience, and it’s why I miss reddit.