This question’s on my mind because my coworker today mentioned they would vote for Trump if they could (mind you this is 2023, in Canada). I don’t generally have the talking points or the desire to fight about it, so I just deflected the conversation. But I often wish I was more strong-willed and could try to figure out why someone believes what they do and, if it’s invalid, then convince them otherwise.

Thus, I’m curious what you all would say or what you’ve done in the past!

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    1 year ago

    Then you don’t know people well and I dare say you should put down the phone and try harder.

    This low effort dunk just makes you look ignorant.

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      There’s no ‘dunk’. She voted against people, animals, and nature. Your sister is not a good person.

      A friendly demeanor slapped over evil actions doesn’t make the actions any less evil.

      Giving her the benefit of the doubt, best case scenario is she’s just stupid and was tricked by evil people into being a tool. Worst case, she understands what she’s doing and is just openly evil.

      In any case, you can’t claim to love thy neighbor while actively advocating for burning their house down.

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        Your sister is not a good person.

        You are categorically wrong, and I’m trying to use this opportunity to shine a light on this part of you that is unable to see beyond what is black or white.

        You cannot reduce a person down to good or evil based on how they voted. It’s insane to think you can. It’s insane to think you can tell me the truth about my sister.

        This insanity is what the right sees when people like you talk, and it’s what is driving the wedge further and further in-between what would otherwise be cooperative groups who want the same basic things in life, with key differences that require rational compromises.

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          Categorically speaking, as the saying goes: “If 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table.”

          You cannot reduce a person down to good or evil based on how they voted. It’s insane to think you can.

          It’s insane to think you can’t. If you support evil, that makes you evil. The exception being the best case scenario mentioned previously of just being stupid. If you turn a blind eye to evil behavior from someone just because they’re in your family, that’s a weakness on YOUR part. Feel free to fix that if you have any respect for yourself or your sister, but good luck with that - I’ve seen the Trump brand of koolaid seep into a couple members of my own family, and it’s a potent drug.

          This insanity is what the right sees when people like you talk, and it’s what is driving the wedge further and further in-between what would otherwise be cooperative groups who want the same basic things in life, with key differences that require rational compromises.

          The right sees what they want to see. Hatred, superstition, and emotional contrarian nonsense are not worthy of compromise; take those away from the right wing and there’s nothing left to compromise with. Saying that I’m driving a wedge between that vitriol and the rest of society is not the criticism you think it is.

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            1 year ago

            The way you talk to strangers you don’t know you absolutely deserve the vitriol. Drink up and nevermind how desperately confused you are.

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              you don’t know

              I can assess only what you’ve told me, and what you’ve told me is that you support evil, but it’s cool because you like animals and you’ve wrapped your hatred with religion.

              If Christianity is actually important to you (or to your sister at least - you haven’t indicated whether or not that’s your cup of tea as well) and you want to understand it beyond blindly accepting what some asshole at an alter tells you, you might want to read up on the Pharisees - they did the same thing, and Jesus was appalled by them, just as he’d be appalled by you and your sister.

              Your showmanship doesn’t mean squat.