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      Idk he got a lot of people’s votes in 2016 for curiosity sake, although I do personally believe that election had interference*. But I guess I don’t personally know anyone who was a fan and changed their mind. I just know ppl who were mild during elections and to varying degrees became more and more indoctrinated. And after elections and especially 1/6 they are a lot less vocal. Lots of his voter base died during the pandemic and a lot of the much more progressive youth became voting age or will be motivated to vote after all that.

      In all honesty I’m more concerned with DeSantis atm but maybe I shouldn’t be? Idk as much about him as I do trump and I tend to not follow elections news. He scares me because he is like trump but young and doesn’t look like a melting wax statue (and the republican party cares a lot about looks until it is inconvenient for them.) He has so much more potential to be a constant thorn in our government for decades due to all of this.

      * I actually believe the 2020 election was intereferred with too, but in republican favor and they still lost and that’s why it was so unbelievable. That’s my fun personal conspiracy theory, since no one asked.

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        I know a couple of idiots who voted for Trump in 2016 because they thought it was funny, but they have realized they were idiots, admitted they were idiots, and have changed their ways.

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        Election fraud is reported publicly, so you can look it up. And it happens on both sides, but the last several cycles had started to skew to the right showing that Republicans are more likely to commit the sort of voting fraud that they can catch.

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          I’ll show you my receipts. For what I admitted is my personal fun theory of conspiracy but since you’re saying the whole both sides thing,. here’s a .gov site that details some of the aspects of interference I believe happened.

          I’d love to see your receipts for how or when it happens with democrats? Or did you mean average civilians committing it?

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            I’m not saying “the whole both sides thing” the way you are obviously reading that. I’m saying that if you look into individual convictions, you will find people on both sides. And I don’t have a source, I’m a ding dong at work. I’m only parroting something I read once a while ago. I’d be happy to abandon this hill. I had no idea I was throwing a gauntlet. I thought I was participating in a conversation.

            And thanks for the link, I’ll check it out.

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                I guess I’m confused. Firstly, I don’t understand why you’re so adversarial. Did I say something offensive? I was trying to be helpful in supporting your theory. Maybe you could find a pattern out of what we already can confirm, who knows? Second, I didn’t dispute anything you said, and I didn’t make any claims that a tertiary search can’t at least be relatively consistent with. If you search election fraud convictions there are several articles reporting on just that. Heritage has a report out covering the last 20 years. So what did I say that was so erroneous that you think I should have “fact-checked”?

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                  You are confused I think you thought the person you replied to was me lol. That said they have a good point of we should all try to fact check stuff before repeating stuff we heard just to make sure we aren’t contributing to misinformation. (Not at you just generally good advice)

                  Look man I do apologize because I was not as clear as I should have been and I think that came across a lot more judgemental than the playful tone I was aiming for. I meant since you mentioned both sides when I was only discussing one specific election with foreign government interference I was showing a link to what I meant and like, idk maybe you actually had something or I misunderstood you.

                  I noticed a lot more antagonizing comments on posts lately though, like everyone is trying to totally pwn someone, so I can understand how some of us may be quicker to expect that motivation. Hope you have a good day