• tallwookie@lemm.ee
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    if only there was a solution that wouldnt immediately destroy billions of dollars in commercial real estate.

    you have to remember that office space cant be easily converted into residential space. most standard office floors dont have more than two or maybe 3 restrooms. cant imagine that many people would be willing to share a public bathroom with their neighbors. you also cant just add a bunch of walls to the interior of office buildings (for individual apartments), the existing architecture wont take the strain. apartment buildings that collapse = lawsuits.

    you could try to retrofit existing commercial office space into residential space but you will fail.

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      Buildings not even built strong enough for multipurpose use. Ahh the “efficiency” of capitalism…

      Also, no one said it has to be rennovated to be exactly like normal apartments. Some mixedly shared living spaces exist in some entire cultures for crying out loud.

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        entire cultures that arent American. if you read the article, you’d note that it’s referring to US cities. non-american cultures arent even part of the conversation.

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          Because most non-US cultures didn’t decide to build their cities in the stupidest way possible.

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            yeah, they probably had really poorly designed cities early on as well. America is the most powerful country in the world but it’s also a very young nation.

            most non-US culture’s cities were repeatedly burned down, pillaged, suffered natural catastrophes like volcanos, tidal waves, earthquakes, and/or had their populations systematically zeroed out by waves of plague/disease/war. they’ve had hundreds, if not thousands of years to figure out a good city plan without modern construction material science.

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              Brazil is as young as the US and, despite interference from the former, still managed just fine to build walkable cities. Japan too.

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          America is supposed to be a melting pot of different cultures, I think we can make it work and I’m sure those who are unhoused would much rather be able to live in a communal space with a roof and shower than nothing. Fuck corporate real estate profits and let the people live ffs

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            a certain percentage of the unhoused are in that position because they’re unwilling to follow the societal rules that the rest of us do. the human detritus festering on the streets of the Kensington neighborhood of Philadelphia is a most excellent example of what not to do.

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      I’ll take an entire floor for the cost of one bachelor unit.

      If you think that’s not fair to the building owner, I agree, they made a bad investment.

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        That’s what I’m saying, convert them to ridiculously high end massive floor plan condos, we don’t need whole buildings of studios and 1br

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      This might come as a shock to you but, human dignity doesn’t give a fuck about commercial real state value. Because commercial real estate owners don’t give a fuck about human dignity. So reciprocating the same level of care is fine for most.

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        love it or hate it, we exist in a capitalistic society. willfully ignoring that just borderline stupidity. “human dignity”? no one cares.

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          You’re a bad person. I’m glad that you recognize that. It puts my moral judgment at ease to know that you’re perfectly aware that you are a bad person.

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      if only there was a solution that wouldnt immediately destroy billions of dollars in commercial real estate.

      Please. Will somebody think of the poor poor investors?

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        i suppose if you’re just arguing on the internet just to pass the time, then probably no one will.

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      You may be correct but we need to think of solutions. Not just rely on conventional wisdom thats says it’s not possible by current standards

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      most standard office floors dont have more than two or maybe 3 restrooms

      Oh no! Too bad they don’t sell common plumbing supplies at the Home Goddamned Depot.