• burtek@programming.dev
    43·
    11 months ago

    I think it just auto-discovers federated instances and randomly shows them on the page unless explicitly disabled…

      • superkret@lemmy.ml
        235·
        11 months ago

        The only ones who have to be concerned about the looks are the instance admins.
        Lemmy isn’t a product in need of marketing.

        • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          72·
          11 months ago

          You’re right, but this is the sort of thing that gets blown up by the media and used to shut down privacy-friendly platforms.

          Maybe it’s a slippery slope fallacy on my part, but it’s not unimaginable to consider the idea that legislators could try to take down an enitre platform based on something like this. Just look at some of the proposed privacy-antagonistic legislation that’s been introduced recently to see what I mean.

        • hypelightfly@kbin.social
          28·
          11 months ago

          They have been told, the tankies that run it don’t care because the people who don’t like pedophiles called them out.

  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
    31·
    11 months ago

    Seems like the kinda thing that comes down to “because it hasn’t been explicitly told not to yet”. It’s a computer grabbing from an ever changing pool of instances based on parameters, not a person hand picking what they like. Computers aren’t usually aware of social ques or laws…

  • Cyclohexane@lemmy.ml
    252·
    11 months ago

    I don’t have a link, but the lemmy creators (and maintainers of join-lemmy) answered this in a AMA about a month ago. They said they’d prefer the horrible people concentrate in their own instances so we can block them easily rather than have them in our instances. The join lemmy list does not serve as an endorsement, but a catalog of all available instances.

    • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
      163·
      11 months ago

      Saying it’s not an endorsement is playing semantic games. Join-lemmy.org is a site that promotes Lemmy, and having this instance there is encouraging new users to hop onboard an instance that encourages people to discuss how best to rape children.

    • dramaticcat@sh.itjust.worksOP
      54·
      11 months ago

      I don’t have a link, but the lemmy creators (and maintainers of join-lemmy) answered this in a AMA about a month ago. They said they’d prefer the horrible people concentrate in their own instances so we can block them easily rather than have them in our instances. The join lemmy list does not serve as an endorsement, but a catalog of all available instances.

      Neither burggit nor comfysnug are shown on the instances page.

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      1·
      11 months ago

      They said they’d prefer the horrible people concentrate in their own instances so we can block them easily

      Then they need to stop stonewalling and add user controllable instance blocking. I know that some clients have it but they’ve been rejecting calls to add it to the main lemmy codebase for a long time.

    • jerbid@programming.dev
      1·
      11 months ago

      I think it’s important to add that the answer in that AMA referred to exploding heads (or maybe a different right-wing instance but something like that) and not this one. I’m sure the Lemmy devs would care a lot more about removing links to a pedo instance than a political one

  • Oka@lemmy.mlEnglish
    12·
    11 months ago

    Thanks to your awareness, its now the most popular listed.

  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
    71·
    11 months ago

    That was an interesting rabbit hole I just went through. There was a post about French postmodern philosophers who defended pedophilia that was posted on that instance as a validation to their cause, meanwhile all the comments under the video are of people recounting their trauma of being sexually assaulted as children.

  • FeminalPanda@lemmings.world
    2·
    11 months ago

    Dam, that’s sad. That was the first instance I tried to sign up with but it wouldn’t get past the verified email part. Guess that’s a good thing, I had to look me into it as I thought this post was just another alt right witch hunt for trans people. Maybe a kink instance could be made with hard rules about that stuff. Really a LGBT community with a wiki would be good. I just got on here so maybe something like that already exists.

    • dramaticcat@sh.itjust.worksOP
      02·
      11 months ago

      Guess that’s a good thing, I had to look me into it as I thought this post was just another alt right witch hunt for trans people. Maybe a kink instance could be made with hard rules about that stuff. Really a LGBT community with a wiki would be good. I just got on here so maybe something like that already exists.

      If anything, lemmy is making the LGBTQ+ community look bad by promoting this instance, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are people pretending to be LGBT over at that instance to make the community look bad.

  • jerbid@programming.dev
    0·
    11 months ago

    Jesus Christ the first local post I saw after checking it out was a meme about being a MAP from a user called “Matt Walsh”

    I mean that’s hilarious but also damn it really isn’t a queer/kink instance that’s messed up

  • morphballganon@lemmy.world
    429·
    11 months ago

    This is like criticising a knife enthusiasts group because knives could be used to commit crime.

    It’s ok to have a community for kinky people. The fact that certain individuals look at illegal stuff doesn’t mean we should get rid of the instance, nor hide it from people who want to use it.

    • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml
      24·
      11 months ago

      I do not care if people have a cuckolding, scat or whatever fetish they want, as long as it involves consent of some sort.

      Children cannot consent for sexual acts. Being at the recieving end of such actions irrepeairably scars their mental life forever; and any person who’s ok with this deserves torture before death.

    • BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social
      132·
      11 months ago

      Sure, but if the knife enthusiasts group is also promoting to you a “Slashing Children With Knives Enthusiasts” group, I think it’s worth criticizing.

      And it is absolutely worth hiding from people who want to use it if the group in question is hosting pedophilia.

      Speaking as a gay guy, there is an astroturf effort from the alt-right to try to paint the LGBT community as being so “inclusive” as to also include literal pedophiles, as if it’s just another sexuality or kink, and I’d rather prefer to nip that squarely in the bud by drawing a very hard line.

    • magnetosphere@kbin.social
      81·
      11 months ago

      That is a piss-poor analogy. Considering that you’re trying to defend the indefensible, though, I’d say it’s the least of your problems.

        • magnetosphere@kbin.social
          3·
          11 months ago

          Understood. I don’t know where you’re from, so let me tell you about a common legal concept in the United States: aiding and abetting. Basically, if you knowingly help someone commit a crime (possessing cp), you’re often guilty of a crime as well. Plus, there’s the issue of distributing cp. That’s a crime in itself.

          To me, though, the legal issues are secondary. My biggest issue is informed consent. Children cannot give informed consent. Therefore, any sexual pictures/video are exploitation. That’s not okay.

          Just the other day, I was talking with someone about the important difference between morality and legality, but in the case of cp, I think they got it right.

          (If you choose to reply, take your time. I’m headed out and won’t be able to answer right away.)

    • dramaticcat@sh.itjust.worksOP
      114·
      11 months ago

      You realize that they host MAP, beastiality, and zoophilia communities?

      It’s one thing to host kinky communities (a-ok as long as it’s legal), it’s another to host pedo communities. Check the fediseer link listed in the post for examples.

    • Melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      You’re right that the post is badly written, because it just sorta says “this is a place that promotes paraphilia!” But in this particular case, this server hosts reprehensible content and is not just a community for kinky people that happens to have pedos on it.

      It’s like if there were a knife enthusiast instance where the largest local community was about committing crime, where the admin self-identifies as being into commiting crimes. It’s absolutely true most knife enthusiasts have no interest in committing crime, and therefore the knife enthusiasts who don’t want to commit crime probably wouldn’t join the server that promotes crime.

      The analogy falls apart a bit because it’s true that they’re not doing anything illegal over there, at least not publicly. But they’re still promoting viewing kids sexually, promoting sexual contact with kids, even talking about nude photos of kids.