• guyrocket@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Hard to believe Hamas planned to attack a peaceful music festival. Guess they’re not the brightest bulbs in the pack.

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      Their explicit aim is the complete destruction of Israel. It is incredibly easy to believe. To quote the Hamas charter:

      Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.

      [Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement… Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam… There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.

      The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."

      Hamas is explicitly opposed to peace, and it’s sole aim is to murder or expel every Jew from the land. Any supporting these attacks needs to asked if this the aim they really want to support.

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        1 year ago

        Hard to justify supporting either side, what with Israel’s actions over the years. There is no good side, and the losers will be the average citizens on both sides.

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        The music festival was symbolic, look at these people enjoying music at a decadent party, on our LAND, while our people can’t even leave this caged city…

        The divide between the haves and have nots is stark, and its going to get people angry… I don’t agree with them, but 100% believe they targeted this festival to send a message to their own people

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                People that are saying that Israel started it are not justifying the attack. They’re simply provided context and understanding about why it happened.

                You treat people like they’re subhuman it shouldn’t be a surprise that they treat you like your life isn’t worth anything either.

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                  No shit Sherlock is that what’s happening? Oh my God thanks for the clarification. The fact is it doesn’t matter because they’ve crossed and egregious line.

                  Are you two?

                  How many wrongs make a right?

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                    There’s no right coming from this. Nothing good’s going to happen from this. Only pain and misery for everyone. Both parties are stuck in a terrible struggle.

                    I don’t know the path to peace here, I don’t think anyone really does. That’s why we haven’t had peace for 50 years.

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        1 year ago

        Yes. They had no thought to the effect it would have on public opinion? Do you see the other headline where Germany will review their aid to Palestine?

        Hard for me to believe they would want to shoot themselves in the foot like that. Very short sighted.

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            Some men just want to see the world burn.

            I get what you’re saying and can accept that Hamas is this way. I am not up to date on them.

            But I do think it is important to point out just how foolish and short sighted it is to be that way. It feels to me like saying the sky is blue but I think it should be said.

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          Can’t blame Germany here. One of the victims was a German woman, which was later seen on the back of a truck, all of her limbs broken / deformed, just in underwear and with a deep wound in the head, paraded around and spat at from even civilians.