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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      So if there’s certain material which, whenever a person encounters it, changes their mind, how do you account for that?

      Wouldn’t the simplest explanation for that be that this material contains compelling arguments people aren’t seeing outside that material?

      • Zoidsberg@lemmy.caOP
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        The History Channel makes compelling arguments for how extra-terrestrials built the pyramids. Compelling doesn’t always equal true.

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          Ancient astronaut theorists believe the pyramids were created as a form of landing platform/dock for extrasolar spacecraft.

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          In this case I’m using to to mean compelling to people with a brain, not just “history channel made a speculation so I’m sold”

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            If you’re taken in by conspiracy theories, it’s not because the information is compelling-but-unseen, but rather because you want to believe that

            A) information that confirms your biases is true

            B) you are privy to knowledge others don’t have.

            These two things reinforce one another.

      • SirWifflesprouts@lemmy.world
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        Sure, but something can be “compelling” for any number of reasons and truth or accuracy don’t need to factor in. People like to hear what makes them feel good or confirms their existing beliefs.

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          So your model of why conservative views stick for some people is that they cause massive dopamine surges like a drug?

          Is it some kind of kundalini yoga mantra that tickles the roof of the mouth just right to activate the natural meth?

          And when considering that explanation versus the alternate explanation that they might have some good points, the magic meth words story is the one you’d go with?

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        Enticing arguments. The rightwing media gives an enticing view of the world, to a certain demographic. Compelling would be more if we saw people from all walks of life being convinced.

      • Blue@lemmy.world
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        this material contains compelling arguments

        Maybe for idiots

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        Or, and I know this is really out there, but maybe, just maybe, facts don’t actually care about your feelings.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          Yeah but you have no idea what claims are in these materials, because you think they’re too toxic to read.

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            Completely untrue. I’m not afraid of news outlets. I’m not afraid of what the “others” have to say

            Pretty sure you’re talking about yourself here, champ.

      • Yawnder@lemmy.zip
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        So I guess both divinity based religions, and non-divinity based religions both are right since a lot of people are believing in both.

        Also, the Earth is both flat and a sphere because lots of people are believing in both!