• Captaincaveman@lemmy.world
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    Bitch is going to commit suicide in jail and that’s way too good for her. She should live with it every day and be beaten daily. Even that’s too good for her. Makes my blood boil

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      I’m trying to understand the downvotes you have. Like yeah, what you’re saying is extreme. But murdering goddamn infants is pretty fucking extreme. If there was ever a time to wish someone pain, it would be now.

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        Some people aren’t mental and don’t wish to inflict pointless harm on others.

        If its wrong to harm people, its wrong to harm those who harm people too.

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          Youre gonna get downvoted for not validating the 2 minutes’ hate. There are an awful lot of people who are very excited to find someone they can get away with doing violence against.

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              This might surprise you mate but it’s not normal to fantasise about inflicting bodily harm to criminals.

              Might want to talk to someone about that.

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          That’s like saying we should be tolerant of republican’s fascism. Some things shouldn’t be allowed even if you sorta need to act like them towards them to get it to stop.

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            No its nothing like that. Shes been given 14 life sentences, how is that tolerating anything??

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          Some people aren’t mental and don’t wish to inflict pointless harm on others.

          Those are the ones upvoting him.

          If its wrong to harm people, its wrong to harm those who harm people too.

          Alright, let me explain it to you as if you were a five year old:

          No one thinks murdering babies is wrong because harming anyone is wrong.

          They think it’s wrong because they’re babies.

          It’s a specific case.

          If harming others was always wrong, it would be impossible for her to be arrested and imprisoned.

          Actually, the nurse wasn’t even using violence to kill the babies so trying to use nonviolence to shame others for wanting that vile bitch of a murderer beaten in prison doesn’t track either.

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            Justify it however you want, these are not the sort of things we should be decided based on emotion.

            “This crime really triggered me so we should influct great harm on the perpetrator” is pretty fucked up man.

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              The fact that you think that’s the reason why I and many others (I am very clearly not alone in my thinking) believe what we do tells us all we need to know about you. You never even asked me the reason why I believe the way I do, you just constructed a stereotype of me and people like me you built in your head based off dumb things others told you and it’s completely warping your judgement. Learn some empathy.

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          Isn’t exactly pointless when someone’s committed a crime against humanity – and murdering those newborns is absolutely a crime against humanity.

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            Stopping her from hurting anyone else is the point. Torturing her just because you can get away with it is pointless.

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                  Schadenfreude would be the term for the actual pleasure derived. And I’m not going to pretend that it’s morally right or ethical to enjoy. But it is human to desire vengeance and revenge. Wishing harm to someone who murdered newborns is one of the least morally wrong instances of vengeance.

                  Plus, I hold that moral absolutism is an even greater evil. This is why the paradox of tolerance exists, and why the same goes for pacifism. It’s impossible to have a pacifistic society unless you are willing to use violence to dissuade violence. You would probably say that means there’s no difference between the two individuals, and I would have to vehemently disagree. Intent and context are incredibly important.

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            That’s not how this works yo. The monster is in prison, she will stay in prison till she’s dead. No more need for extrajudicial punishments. No need to torture or to murder her.

            There is nothing gained from hurting her further except a bunch of unwashed brainlets get hateboners; further it opens a whole can of worms of extrajudicial, punitive violence.

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            I swear you guys heard someone say that once and now think you can use it to justify any unrelated bullshit.

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            Not at all lol

            Inflicting pain on someone is not stopping them from harming others.

            Making premeditated violence illegal but then punishing it with violence is retarded.

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          Have you heard of the paradox of tolerance

          This isn’t to say that I’m arguing for torture as retribution, but this almost comes across as you arguing against actions having consequences, which is a wholly different argument, and I understand you probably don’t actually support that, but I’m just going off what’s written. I’m actually kind of with you in terms of the torture thing, like I’d probably just put her in solitary and leave it at that. But yeah, as with tolerance, a peaceful society has to have ways to deal with violence, lest it become a violent society.

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            This has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. Not even slightly for one she’s been arrested, charged and given 14 life sentences and is going to spend her entire life in prison. So she has faces consequences for her actions.

            and for two she is not a threat to tolerant society, shes a serial killer.

            I dont think you actually know that the paradox of tolerance means.

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            Yes of course I have, how else could I have said “this isn’t that” without knowing about it lol?

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        Yea, I’m generally a well composed guy, but it’s hard to keep cool in this instance

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          There usually isn’t much that makes me literally speechless or at a loss for words, but after I read more specific details further down in this thread it actually happened to me. I also can’t remember the last time my eyes actually widened in horror at reading something.

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        Simps sniffing after that young hot nurse pussy is all it is. They don’t care she killed babies. They care about that hot pic on the front page.

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        Absolutely, people can down vote to oblivion but I stand by what I said. Days old babies, I cannot comprehend this. It’s that reason I may sound a smidge extreme, for a very laid back easy going person this has awoken a great anger in me.

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          And it should, but that anger should be directed not to further hurt this sick animal, but towards all the checks and balances that should have caught this earlier - administration that refused to look into it after her colleagues raised concerns, the implicit trust we put into people in these careers, and the lack of screening that lets people like this into these jobs in the first place.

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      I don’t think she’ll get the chance to do that considering what I’ve heard about what inmates do to murderers

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      Reddit would suspend your account for this comment even though it is perfectly reasonable. But I also think why waste time and money on this trash and just throw her into a furnace or something.