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A Detroit synagogue president was found fatally stabbed outside her home Saturday morning.
Samantha Woll, 40, led the congregation of Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue. The synagogue confirmed Woll’s death Saturday in a statement writing, “We are shocked and saddened to learn of the unexpected death of Samantha Woll, our Board President.”
“May her memory be a blessing,” the statement continued.
Authorities said a 911 call was made to Woll’s home early Saturday, reporting an individual lying on the ground unresponsive. Police discovered multiple stab wounds on Woll’s body and found a trail of blood leading to her house, where they believe the crime occurred.
An investigation is underway. At this time, the motive for the crime remains unknown.
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Something tells me this is a Detroit thing not a Jew thing.
People saying its the far right
Far right and far left are very similar This could easily be a leftie who thinks it’s woke to free Palestine by killing Jews
How do you make a 911 call to someone’s home?
Know what street you’re on, see the house numbers on the mailbox, dial 911, say “hey yes it seems someone is injured outside [ADDRESS], I noticed while walking/driving by.”
Seems easy enough to me.
The article has been revised to clarify for you
Authorities said a 911 caller early Saturday reported a person lying on the ground unresponsive at Woll’s home.
At this time, the motive for the crime remains unknown.
Unknown? Clearly this prominent Jewish community leader in Detroit was viciously stabbed to death for her playstation, there was no other reason possible.
You can’t make any assumptions in these situations. If police are known for anything, it’s being level-headed and unbiased.
LMAO
Well, that is the prevailing theory (by the anti self defense crowd anyway) for why home invasions occur and is commonly used as the reasoning for why self defense is bad.
In my opinion this is a case for why self defense is necessary (because clearly not everyone is “just here for your TV”), but Everytown would prefer this outcome to her shooting the stabber, so…
- Attempted robbery
- Hate crime
- Targeted attack by someone with a personal vendetta unrelated to Woll’s religion
- Random attack by a nutter
Among any number of other potential motives. There’s a definite hierarchy of probability but random blind assertions in public are not how you build an actual fucking criminal case.
You missed the most obvious one: most women are murdered by men they know, and largely by current or former intimate partners. Especially since
[Police] found a trail of blood leading to her house, where they believe the crime occurred.
Nope. All available evidence you need is in the article, didn’t you read it? Her religion. That’s it, case closed.
But… I guess if that’s somehow not enough, we just to sprinkle some crack on her.
When you take everything you read literally and as Very Serious Business, do you do it as a studied effort, or are you just like this?
Oh what, so now you were JUST KIDDING BRO.
Shut the fuck up.
So your idea of a rebuttal to “don’t take everything literally” is to say “well if it’s not black then it’s white”? You’re either literally a school-age child or a complete idiot, what is it about nuance that escapes you? How do you even have to think about it, why isn’t it just coming naturally from common sense. Living your life must feel like the first 2 seconds after a blow to the head all the time.
I know it’s sometimes hard to decipher sarcasm from written word, but holy shit people took your joke insanely seriously.
Stay away from stand-up comedy, someone might discover you own a PlayStation as well.
FWIW, I chuckled. What a sad fucking story and what a sad fucking state that you’re consoling humor went so unappreciated.
Or maybe sarcastically implying that a murder was a hate crime when we know literally nothing about the situation is a shit joke. Immediately screeching like a toddler after very mild pushback isn’t a good look either.
Let the pearl-clutching begin!
I’m just not reading it as screeching, but what do I know? I misread tone all the time.
Either way, I’m morbidly curious what they’re going to find about this. Stabbing murders tend to be incredibly personal, which could imply that this was done by someone close to her or someone wanted to delight in her suffering.
I’m no detective, just some random internet dude, but if not a hate crime, whoever murdered this poor lady certainly had some strong feelings about her.
Local Jew in Detroit here. Woll was my friends’ cousin. Another friend was in elementary school with her at Hillel.
People are shook up and scared. People aren’t sure if this is the crest of a wave of antisemitic violence, or something more senseless.
My 3 kids are half Jewish through my ex wife. I hear you and I had a chat with them this morning about this. Although I’m in Toronto, Canada the same bigots are here and have been empowered by the same vitriolic rhetoric floating around.
I told them that hate is hate and if they hear it directed specifically at them or a Muslim in their school (friends with Iranians) for them to report to the teachers and to me. Hate will not be tolerated.
Please stay safe.
Just in general, antisemitic hate crimes have been disproportionate for a pretty long time, regardless of the situation in Gaza.
Damn. I’m sure this is exactly what any non-malicious deity would want. /s because I fear it’s needed.
Far right white supremacist killings of Jews is far more prevalent in the US than Muslim killings of Jews. My first suspects would be among the extreme right.
Far right arab supremacists also exist. Impossible to rule them out especially given the timing and circumstances.
place your bets place your bets will it be a nazi, a klansman, a jihadist, death by cop (never discount the possibility) or just some other random murderer? AAAAAMERRRRRICA THE LAND OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY
Right? Stabbings are a strictly American phenomenon, as is racially or religiously motivated violence and just violence in general. Don’t see any of those happening anywhere else in the entire world, people in other countries have pillowfights at most. America wake up, everywhere else is a utopia while you slide into a dystopia.
You are right stabbings do happen elsewhere it’s the guns that set America apart.
I see you’ve never played expanded rock paper scissors. Grenade beats gun beats knife, so Sweden still beats America but at least America (and CZ) beats the rest of europe.
Forgetting the biggest cause of murders for women in the US: it was someone they knew, probably a lover.
And the current geopolitical climate could give the far right cover for committing antisemitic crimes. Particularity for crimes less serious (and therefore less well investigated) than murder, they can commit hate crimes and blame it on the Arabs.
Out of morbid curiosity… are the skinheads rooting for the Israelis or Hamas? Usually they don’t like brown people, but they also don’t like Jewish people.
In general, they have different things they perceive and admire about the two. Please know, I’ll be using some of their words. In Hamas, they see people battling “Degeneracy” and “Jewish Influence.” There is an admiration for Israel, as an theocratic apartheid ethnostate. Seriously, at protests, Ive seen them carry Israeli flags before. Mostly, though its a party. “The subhumans” are fighting, one will be destroyed and one will look bad in the eyes of the international community.
I dont mean to necro anything, @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ,
This article articulates the answer to your question very well, with Nick Fuentes being quoted.
Many Israelis are brown people, about 20 % are Palestine and there are also Muslims in Israel. Hating Israel sadly isn’t an easy litmus test for Nazis.
I guess the most Nazi standpoint on Israel-Palestine conflict is to rub one’s hands.
I realize this isn’t your point but I feel the need to point out that skinheads are not nazis - it is unfortunately a very well working project of cultural appropriation by the racists.
In the scene racist skinheads are mostly referred to as boneheads, a term which I think makes much more sense.
Ordinarily I’d agree with you, but Occam’s razor doesn’t. Metro Detroit is home to the largest Arabic community in the country. I believe Jewish/Arab relations are pretty sound there, but given the current circumstances…
The whole far right media ecosystem is fucked. There was also the young Palestinian boy stabbed to death by a white right-wing nutjob for being Muslim recently because of the media’s portrayal of this conflict.
Ur dumb
I know we’re speculating here but imo given what’s going on between Palestine and Israel I would be inclined to believe the latter rather than the former.
Taking down the article as to without a word why. lWhy would you do that and run away without an explanation ? leave it up as the investigation continues. Ihttps://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2023/10/22/police-investigation-jewish-leader-samantha-woll-slaying-vigil/71282542007/ you coward .
