On the Maguire challenge:
He’s got to get the ball
The ref said no foul and VAR can’t get involved because it’s not clear and obvious
It’s just not a penalty I’ve seen players not have anything given against them when the ball is there,but at the point of contact the ball is gone and it’s a pretty light contact.
The contact is just before the ball gets to him but it’s hard to say whether the contact has put him off the header. And I wouldn’t call it a light contact personally, he’s midair and Maguire puts weight on him with his forearm in his back. For me it’s definitely a foul, and I don’t think the ref can say no foul because the ball has gone, off the ball fouls are still a thing.
The amount of errors is just beyond rediculous.
Yep. Liverpool fan at the game, far side of the stadium and it was clear and obvious Konate deserved to go
I disagree as I think we’ve gone too soft. If we saw yellows for such a light touch every time, which is what you’d have to have for consistency, we’d be seeing multiple sending offs every game. Beto was straight into his dive as soon as he got touched. I can understand why he’d be trying to even up the match but he was definitely looking for it.
I really dislike Ashley Young but his second yellow was really harsh; Diaz did him no favours either with his multiple rolls. If the ref had just pulled him to the side, given him a big long talking to, Dyche could’ve done exactly the same thing that Klopp did and pulled him off. It was a foul sure, but every foul after someone has been put in the book isn’t an automatic yellow. This is compounded by the fact that the first yellow for young was also fairly harsh considering Tsimikas never saw yellow a few mins later for a similar offence. Similarly, if a cautionary word had been given to Jota vs Spurs then nobody would’ve cared about the fact his first yellow was a joke either as he would’ve just been pulled.
I get there is a lot of pressure on refs when the crowd is baying for cards but before they ultimately ruin the game, they’d do well to take a pause and, if there is any doubt that they’ve maybe not got either call correct, give the player an obvious final warning. If the manager doesn’t pull him or the player just continues to push his luck, then fair enough. I can’t be the only one who is sick of so many red cards this season though. It just ruins the match.
Regarding the Chelsea penalty for handball Dermot says it’s irrelevant that it came off Mudruk so close to Saliba
”It comes off Mudryk, but blocks it going forward to another player.
Yet it’s completely contradictory to what he said earlier this season when he said that it’s not a penalty because Diaz flicked it just in front of Jackson
Tbf to Dermot, there are different interpretations based on where the players’ arms are. When the arms are closer to the body, the refs take more things into consideration as mitigating factors, including proximity and deflections. When the arms are above the shoulder they will often ignore those mitigating factors because they feel you were taking a risk by having your hands there.
I don’t agree. He’s jumping. You try jumping with your arms down by your side. Also, it should be about the situation. Mudrik shot the ball. It was off target. There was no chance a Chelsea player was going to get that ball before it went out. And it was shot off target almost point blank into Saliba’s arm. This didn’t block a shot from being on target. It didn’t prevent a pass. It shouldn’t be a pen for me.
Needs a replay I think
Remember when Liverpool tried highlighting the poor standard of officiating and holding officials to account and everyone else said ‘Naa leave out, they’ve said sorry havnt they? Move on, what more do you want’.
Konate 2nd would have been very soft
Player throws himself down, minimal contact and had lost possession anyway.
If they are yellows going to be 10 every game