Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.

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    I can deal with post critizing anarchy. I’m just not seeing that. Alls I see are post calling anarchist fake. Or calling them libs. Or calling them angry teenagers.

    Soo what it sounds like is there isn’t room for anarchist on lemmygrad? Are you willing to share with me some critiques of anarchism that are not based in literal name calling?

    Cuz I will read, but I’m not gonna stick around and get called a lib over and over again.

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      Soo what it sounds like is there isn’t room for anarchist on lemmygrad?

      Again, Lemmygrad and Hexbear are different websites with different rules.

      If you’re interested in being accepted as an anarchist, Hexbear would be more welcoming.

      Are you willing to share with me some critiques of anarchism that are not based in literal name calling?

      I’m not responding to you to argue with you, I’m trying to help you have a less frustrating lemmy experience.

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      We are calling fake anarchists fake. No one said anarchists as a whole were fake. Why are you taking this personally. All the way from the title (self styled “anarchists”) it should’ve been clear it was criticizing a specific type of person laying false claim to the ideology of anarchism, not the whole.

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        OK but these are the only posts I see on here regarding anarchy. I see pretty Much “anarkiddys” And things like “anarchist just wanna be petty Bourgeoisie”. Or memes just talking trash.

        (self styled “anarchists”) it should’ve been clear

        This alone doesn’t convey that there are accept able forms of anarchy on this community. Its just bashing.

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          No it doesn’t, I don’t know why you interpret it that way. Suggesting someone we don’t like has illegitimate claim to an ideology suggests someone we like has legitimate claim to it. Imagine Alex Jones says “these “conservatives” in the white are evil,” it should be clear he likes conservatism but thinks neocons have an illegitimate claim to it.

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            Suggesting someone we don’t like has illegitimate claim to an ideology suggests someone we like has legitimate claim to it.

            I guess… Although I’m a little confused.

            Imagine Alex Jones says “these “conservatives” in the white are evil,”

            But this is different than the OP. This clearly differentiates a sub group. The conservatives in white

            If I said these “conservatives” are full of shit. It kinda critizes the term “conservative” as well. And those who call themselves that.

            Once again, while I see your point. I still haven’t seen a earnest critique of anarchy on this community. Maybe you can link one?

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              For good critiques I’d suggest State and Revolution by Lenin, parts of Gramsci’s writing (listen to Marx Madness podcast), some of Huey’s writings, and Stalin’s Anarchism or socialism (a bit harsh, but gets the point across), among others in this thread.

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                One thing which always struck me from Marx’s critiques of the Paris commune- that the various sections didn’t come to the aid of eachother, and allowed the whole revolution to be defeated in detail. Some of the most cutting critiques anarchists have of AES states have been pretty much of exactly that mistake being repeated- it just played out on the scale of nations rather than within a city.