Having a debate with an Italian guy about who is the bigger club and I think it’s close.
Both have won their domestic league 19 times and Milan have 1 more Champions League.
Milan probably have more well known legends like Van Basten, Kaka, Maldini, Gullit and Pirlo. But in recent years Liverpool have had Gerrard, Suarez, Alonso, VVD and Salah.
The current popularity of the Premier League helps Liverpool but Milan also has a huge fanbase.
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Best teams in Europe based on history using a very scientific method called my opinion:
1- Real Madrid 2- Bayern Munich 3- Man Utd 4- Milan 5- Liverpool 6- Barca 7- ajax 8- juve 9- Inter 10- Porto
Bring arsenal, psg andman city to the discussion when they win a UCL and have 15/20 years of continuous presence in UCLs.
Man united at 3? Are gou drunk?
I’m not a Liverpool fan or anything but I’d put them alongside Real Madrid, Man U and Barca as the most popular team in the world from a legacy standpoint. Milan for sure up there but not to the same level
Legacy standpoint? What exactly does liverpool have over milan in terms of legacy? Milan has more trophies, better players, more ballon d’or winners and also the best team of all time (except for 2008 barca)
Milan have more legends and more iconic players but Liverpool are the bigger club. Both similarly decorated but Liverpool have a far bigger fan base. Milan’s history is just factually cooler tho. Idc who you are
I’m an AC Milan fan and I’d still say Liverpool tbh
The big historic 7 European Supergiants are Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and AC Milan.
Real Madrid are probably top of that list but there’s arguments about the order of the other 6.
I would argue ajax and inter milan are among these supergiants as well
And both above Liverpool
Arsenal is bigger than Juve and Milan
Unfortunately there is no discussion Real Madrid is at the top.
Man Utd have win fewer European Cups than Ajax.
Would we really call United a historic Euro Supergiant?
They’re probably second in that list behind Real to be honest.
Two things here that I believe make Liverpool the better of the two. 1, the Premiere League and it’s historical equivalents is indisputably far harder than Serie A and it’s historical equivalents. 2, a huge amount of corruption in the Italian game was responsible for some (some) of Milan’s success.
Milan is more than football (fashion design, business, fast cars, facism/mussoini etc)… While Liverpool is purely football (if you look away from 4 guys who made a band in the 50s/60s). That makes Liverpool FC a bigger name in Liverpool than AC Milan would be in Milan. Liverpool is famous because of its football club, while Milan is not.
To some degree you can say that Liverpool are one of those town/cities that is famous because of its football… Milan would have had a name anyways. Visiting Anfield is one of Liverpools (the city’s) main-attraction, while san siro is not a main attraction of Milano…That’s the difference. Football is everything in Liverpool, while in Milano it’s just one of several thing… So howcome Milan be a bigger club, when they’re not even the most important thing in the city.
I think Liverpool’s more famous and has more fans. A lot of that’s because the Prem is much bigger world wide than Serie A. For example, Liverpool’s got 3x more followers on Instagram.
The world’s biggest generation by population is baby boomers, most of whom don’t have social media. Not really a good metric.
Especially when considering Liverpool and other English clubs were banned from European competition during the late 80s/early 90s, a time when ‘celebrity’ started to go global and when Milan had their absolute peak
Milan are famous for their style of play back in the glorious periods with the Flying Dutch, Arrigo Sacchi, Fabio Capello, Carlo Ancelotti…etc. In terms of football, it did make difference with Liverpool whose football identity is an unknown. Personally, I’ve never heard of Liverpool style of play.
Regarding other stuffs, it’s difficult to compare Milan vs Liverpool since they’re both ones of the biggest clubs in the world
Milan has a bigger stadium, better known legends, play in an affluent city, and has great history and traditions.
Liverpool is worth billions more , has more fans, and is better on the pitch. They also have the history and traditions.
It’s a tough question to answer.
besides maldini who are milan’s well know (e.g. household name) legends? definitely think liverpool has more
The whole 2005 milan are well known legends
I’m not sure where the “bigger legends” thing is coming from. Souness, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Hansen and Keegan are some of the best players to ever play in England.
Then there’s the semi-recent players like Gerrard, Carragher, Owen, Fowler, Suarez and Alonso who were all great players. Even more recent there’s Mane, Firmino and Coutinho who are some of the best to play in the Premier League. Currently there’s Alisson, Van Dijk and Salah who are all time greats.
I’m sure you could do a similar list for Milan and I’m not saying Liverpool’s legends are definitely “better”, but I don’t think the conversation can just be brushed under the carpet.
Sorry to burst your bubble but no kid nowadays has ever heard of souness, dalgish, rush, barnes, hansen and Keegan.
Slippy G-Had and Carra never won the league. Only Souness, Rush and Keegan were deemed good enough by true European giants to play for them. Hansen was incredibly overrated. I only ever hear pundits and true legends mention Keegan out of your list. The rest are only club legends, not football legends.
That’s like saying Inesta, Xavi, Messi, Busquets… no European giants deemed them good enough. That Liverpool side was 2x as successful as the peak Barcelona side. Let that set in
I said in our subreddit but: since berlusconi bought milan, not one Liverpool player will go into a combined 11 of the two teams.
I have some idiots try and say vvd is close to baresi and my brain explodes.
Callagher and them lil buddies are cool until we bring out Maldini, Costacurta, Baresi. And that’s just Italian CBs. Milan is clear on this front. At least to me. There are club icons/legends. And then there are all time greats, Milan has had more of those in my opinion.
How is the prosperity of the city they play in relevant?
Liverpool is a much bigger name worldwide. The premier league is much more difficult to win than the Italian league. Anyone know the fan base numbers ?
None of the Liverpool legends would even touch the Milan legends bench
I honestly think it’s Liverpool comfortably.
it’s baffling to me that people are arguing otherwise. the big four is Madrid, Liverpool, Barca, United. it’s nothing against Milan, those clubs are just a different tier