• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    In a sane world, cops would be boasting about what a great job they are doing. In this timeline, they know that scared people will vote for increases in police budgets.

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      10 months ago

      But, they defunded* all the police, so if they admit the murder rate is down, they’re afraid they’ll get defunded* even further. Must continue to scream about high crime rates to get that sweet, sweet money.

      *I know they didn’t defund the police.

  • remotelove@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    Nope. The media will continue to bring crime forward as a story and the perception of people will stay constant. If I had to guess, people will continue to say that crime is getting worse, or it’s the worst it has ever been.

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      10 months ago

      Crime statistics are literally just made up. Your local PD decided whats a crime and whats not, it could be the same exact thing but a crime one day and an incident the next. Fight at private high school? Not a crime. Fight at the low income area public high school? Crime.

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        Fight at private high school? Not a crime.

        How many homicides at private schools do you think are not reported?

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        10 months ago

        A ton of crime does go unreported in general, so yeah. Numbers for crimes that are less severe than murder are probably way off.

        Murder numbers would be fairly accurate, I would imagine. If those numbers are significantly off, there are some serious issues with reporting.

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          Yeah. We aren’t reporting any crime. Like when the cops are told to round up the homeless because it’s cutting into the city’s corrupt recycling program, so they arrest them for nothing just to get them off the street.

          We are talking murders. People don’t not report them. And if someone goes missing, we don’t typically just let it go either.

          Theft and assault? Those are going to be all over the map. But murders tend to be really accurate and sort of impervious to the “dark figure of crime.”

      • Melkath@kbin.social
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        10 months ago

        Remember less that a year ago when Covid went from a pandemic to nonexistent?

        That was because state governments stopped collecting the data, not because covid went away.

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          It was also because we have medicine now and Covid isn’t swamping the ER with cases. Most people can just take the medicine at home.

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            Yes. Vaccinated peoples don’t tend to need ventilators. As much.

            But that’s not why numbers stopped being collected. They stopped being collected because of political consequences for reelection for the lack of action elected officials took. So their response was to do less.

            I am 2 jabs in and zero covid infections in. Because I’m not a petulant 5 year old, I still wear a mask, and I still social distance.

            Can’t wait for an incubator to infect me and put me on a ventilator.

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              While the infection rates of COVID are still variable and it hasn’t really gone away. The dangers still exist, for the most part. However, I personally think it is going the way of the flu and its almost there.

              The biggest danger of COVID was that it was new, there were no vaccines and nobody had an immunity to it. It was a quick killer and nobody knew why, yet

              TBH, it’s good practice to keep wearing a mask if you want to limit yourself from getting sick. However, I do believe that the risk of death or needing a ventilator has gone down significantly. Post-infection treatments exist and the virus isn’t much of a mystery anymore.

              I have always tried to socially distance even before it was a thing. (Malls were always an unpleasant experience for me. I can’t stand smelling other people as they walk past me…)

              My point, is that the risk of being put on a ventilator is much lower even without masks or social distancing. You do you, by all means! It just seems that being as fearful of it is not necessary any more. (It’s still a nasty little virus, don’t get me wrong.)

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                IMO, covid has gone the way of leaded water.

                Long covid is still a thing.

                But some folks don’t want help.

                Cool, I can wear this mask for years.

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    10 months ago

    Violent crime is a fraction of what it was in the 70s and 80s. But that’s not really the issue here. Yes the media is using violence and fear to push page views, but the argument that’s being made is that solely because of this somehow it justifies firearm ownership and the cult of firearms that exists in this country. Every mass shooting someone somewhere will mention the historically low violent crime rates as if that wipes away the over 500 mass shootings so far this year and the 8 percent increase in mass shootings since 2020.

    Sorry but no. Not the duck that people think it is. Not a good enough excuse. We still have a very real problem and if certain individuals can’t pull their head out of their ass and start working to find real solutions then those people are going to get voted the fuck out and adults will be put in their place who will get the job done. It’s that simple.

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    The beginning of the drop in crime coincided with the “Broken Window” model of policing that new York and other large cities adopted. They like to claim credit.

    But it also dropped in small towns that didn’t have the same trendy police tactics.

    The best explanation I’ve seen is that abortion became protected, so miserable women weren’t forced to give birth in terrible conditions, and subsequently there weren’t as many impoverished, abused children that turned to crime.

    Guess we’ll find out in a few years as the unwanted pregnancies start to tick up and economic mobility continues to stagnate.

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      There is also another theory about the dropoff being caused by reduction of lead in environments.

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      10 months ago

      While getting a smog check, the proprietor told me that there was more crime than ever in our area. I was baffled. He looked to be my age. Had he forgotten the '90s? People will believe things they’re told over what they see with their own eyes. Smh… and I’m finding a new smog check place next time

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    Before we start to pat ourselves on the back: How does the number of murders in the U. S. compare to the rest of the world? This is really the only meaningful metric, otherwise it’s like a chain smoker congratulating themselves from dropping from 3 packs a day to 2.

    The most “recent” information I could find used U.S. data from 2012 and world data from 2017 (which is really dumb). There the U. S. was Ranked 4th highest in murders by country .

    *“… there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.” *

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      10 months ago

      Dropping from 3 packs a day to 2 is great progress, IMO? I’d congratulate someone on that.

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      The most “recent” information I could find used U.S. data from 2012 and world data from 2017 (which is really dumb). There the U. S. was Ranked 4th highest in murders by country .

      slow down speed racer

      United States Virgin Islands (49.3 [2012 data])

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        Yeah, seems the US is somewhere around 34th according to this source.

        Anyway, comparing murder rates between countries is generally fraught. Statistics tend to vary wildly even in different geographical areas, and the US is capital L Large. Rural and suburban US are often very competitive with other developed nations, but ghetto US is down in the gutter.

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      The AR-16 was released in the late 50’s. (As a cheaper, easier to produce weapon than the AR-10)

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      That would be the AR looking gun made out of a converted Mac-10 lower so it’s legally full auto.

  • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe
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    They’re not. The article is just lying to you because they want to restore trust and faith in the system in people.

    Half of all murders went unsolved in 2020. Don’t forget that.

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    10 months ago

    Nope. Media will never allow that. Gotta keep us at each other’s throats so we don’t get our shit together and start holding politicians accountable.