This guy has already given up
Because he’s massively out of his depth in this league
It’s unusual for a manager not to have a style of play they’d try to implement wherever they manage. Most managers you know what type of football you’d be getting but Ten Hag just seems to be making it up as he goes along.
That isn’t unusual at all lol. Every manager that doesn’t have a state supporting him does that. He explains why in the article. Pressing high and building up from the back requires a certain type of players and those are either out injured or don’t have the legs anymore to do that in the PL. You have to use players to their strenghts. If he would have played a high line/ high press system and Maguire and Evans would have been caught out everyone would have blamed him for not playing a low block.
Will we ever play in a certain way Eric? Because right now it just looks like yoloball
Could do with the fact we had a huge injury crisis right at the start of the season.
A backline consisting of our 3rd choice CB, 5th choice CB, 6th choice CB, and 2nd choice RB.
Even if we sack him then what? We hire another guy, honeymoon period until next season then rinse and repeat. There’s no structure behind the manager, it’s like being an accountant and not being able to use excel or accounting software.
Some of these players will be on their FIFTH manager if we sack him. A couple will be on their fourth and a whole lot will be on their third. That’s unheard of anywhere else in football. For me, sacking him is not the solution
This is on Ten Hag for picking a terrible job to begin with. He’s someone who can’t be the face of a club necessarily, at Ajax he had an incredible structure with Overmars leading it, and he just had to stick to coaching for the most part. I am aware of his work at Utrecht where he focused a lot more on squad building, but Utrecht vs United are very different situations.
Is it possible he goes? Thought he seemed rattled after the match.
Oh joy, we’ve reached the part of the cycle where the depressing quotes start, with the manager lowering already rock bottom expectations…
Tbf he just says that hell never play Ajax football at United, because he has different players at United and United usually play another brand. Stating that he implements a style based on the players he has at his disposal, not the other way round
But all the players he bought to implement that style tho …
Nothing depressing about this. All he’s saying is that Ajax have a particular brand of football and he adapted to it. United have never played that style and don’t have the players for it, so it doesn’t make sense to try to do the exact same thing he did before.
Then why did he buy the Ajax players?
Wasn’t he brought in to implement that style? And wasn’t he given all that money to sign the players to implement that style? It’s kinda weird to say it can’t be done after 3 transfer periods.
United downfall is changing philosophy
hire a manager who plays counter attack or 4-4-2 and you will instant progress
Does the one who you have in your mind name rhyme with “ole”
Man I loved Ole, regardless of results.
Ahh so he is finally at the “acceptance” stage
Ten Hag’s biggest problem so far is his recruitment. They did not try hard for Frenkie when we had financial issues(he wanted to stay but the club wanted him out) and bought Mount for 60-70 million. Frenkie, Bruno and Casemiro would have worked for sure.
Even pushing out De Gea was bad transfer. Could def haggle decent wage for 1-2 years and invested that 40-50mil into onfield player that was much bigger issue than the golden glove winner.
How the fuck is it Ten Hag’s fault that the club handled the De Jong negotiations horrendously.
Ermmm, United literally agreed a fee with Barca for weeks until they withdrew the offer because FDJ did not want to move. So not much they could have done in that case.
They were not ready to pay the amount we asked and neither De Jong salary demands.
Barcelona accepted and reached an agreement on the sale of FDJ. United just never reached an agreement on personal terms with FDJ because he didn’t want to move. This is well established and not even speculation.
Yeah, their recruitment to me is genuinely embarrassing. It seems like they just wake up and decide to sign someone; Casemiro signing at the times left be baffled. For a guy like ETH known for a high pressing and possession based football, why spending all that money on a slow midfield destroyer that weak in moving the ball fast and controlling the tempo of a game. It obviously obliged ETH to adapt and the only way is changing your style of play
the united job is proven to drive a man insane
And he says it’s specifically cause of the players we have.
You can’t play Ajax football with Fernandes, Casemiro, Rashford, McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Maguire. Could go on. Cause we’ve Frankensteined a squad of mainly 2 different counter attacking managers, Mourinho and Ole.
What is causing the issue is that he’s brought in some ‘Ajax’ players to play alongside the others, so we’re playing some fucked up in-between which isn’t giving the best of either, and actually showing the worst in both.
He has to take blame, but the board above him do too, why is there nobody above him saying we now have a squad filled with players who want to be on the ball and also several players who treat the ball like a grenade?
So? Every manager somewhat gets the old guard and has to manage around it. Think Ange or Emery got clean slate and players they wanted from day one?
As much as I dislike Ten Hag, you’re right. Look at Arteta too, it took him years to get rid of the old guard and to turn things around. That included getting rid of Raul too behind the scenes
I would have said fair enough but watching what Ange has done at Spurs in 10 games when our team was built for counterattacking under Mourinho and Conteball. Sure we brought in a few players but he’s had a single window and we look much more coherent than what’s going on with y’all.
You guys have some amazing players shackled by Conte and Mourinho. We’ve been let down by some of these players for several managers across multiple years, and some of them are still getting the chance.
We can get a lot better than we currently are. Struggle to get worse, especially given the injuries. Everyone seems low on confidence.
We’re all pissed cuz City beat us but we all knew they would. Look at our defense and tell me you thought the likes of Maguire, Evans, Lindelof, and Dalot we’re going to keep City quiet.
A lot of comments on ETH spending 400mil on his team to play like this but it’s literally a youngster in hojlund, amrabat, onana, and evans. We’re still missing 300mil of players that he signed
He’s out of his depth and wasn’t ready for the PL in all honesty
What does it have anything to do with the PL? He literally finished 3rd last season? It’s more just terrible job selection from him. Put De Zerbi or Emery or whatever flavour of the month manager in Ten Hag’s spot and they wouldn’t do much better
What’s he on about, united are playing exactly like a team that’s bottom of their respective league /s