I like dogs like I like toddlers. It’s fun to hang out with other people’s for a while, but ultimately they’re annoying, loud, and make a mess. I feel like in the past 10 years or so, dog owners have become increasingly convinced that everyone thinks their slobbering, untrained mutt is god’s gift to everyone, and expects everyone to love it unconditionally. Dogs in restaurants. Dogs in stores when you go shopping. “Oh it’s so funny that your dog is jumping on me and getting it’s dirty paws all over me while it tries to sniff my crotch.” “Oh oops! Your dog ate my food off the counter, fucking again. Guess that’s my fault because in this house nothing is safe from the coddled fucking dog.” “Hey man can you watch the dog? It’s really easy, not like it pisses all over the floor and knocks the trash over or anything. We have to leave the house for 2 hours and it has anxiety/depression/borderline personality disorder and he’s a wittle special boy who needs constant attention.”

I’m just tired of it. Nobody gives a goddamn about your stupid dog. Stop bringing your animal to restaurants, it’s disgusting and inconsiderate. It’s not your child, it’s a dog. Dog people have made me hate dogs.

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    I love my dog more than anything on this planet, but she’s mine and I don’t expect anyone else to like her just because I do, she can be annoying as fuck, but I have more than enough love for her that it makes up for everyone else who doesn’t like her.

    I also agree tho, you don’t have to take your dog everywhere you go unless you have a legitimate reason and that’s what service dogs are for.

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    Man, I love dogs, I’ve had dogs my whole life. BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE: dogs in supermarkets, dogs in restaurants - fuck that, if it’s not a genuine service animal fuck off with that bullshit. Dogs do not belong where food is stored or prepped.

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    It sounds a lot more like you are actually tired of inconsiderate dog owners.

    I have a dog. I think he’s great. I also realize that not everyone feels the same and I don’t bring him to places that are not acceptable for him to be. I also watch him when I am out walking him and do my best to make sure that he doesn’t approach people who may not want that kind of attention.

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    You haven’t even covered roaming street dogs. Unowned dogs just roaming streets, back alleyways, being a nuisance.

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    I’d agree that it’s inconsiderate to bring an untrained dog into situations where they may cause problems, and I’d even extend this to say that it’s inconsiderate to not train your dog properly. My experience is that a well-trained dog is happier - as the owner, you should be squarely in charge, and you need to help your dog understand which behaviors are acceptable and which are not.

    A well-trained dog, on the other hand, should be possible to put most if not all social situations. They do not treat the wrong places as bathrooms, they do not make sounds, they do not eat things they have not been given permission to eat, and they do not greet anyone that hasn’t invited them to greet.

    I believe that dogs trained to this level should be allowed in restaurants, offices and shops.

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      Nope. People are allergic, people don’t like hair in their food, and a significant number of people are afraid of dogs, often due to related trauma. Certified service dogs and that’s it, full stop. Anything else is just inconsiderate. The assumption that everyone wants to interact with your dog everywhere is a large part of my issue. A dog has zero place in a restaurant unless it’s specifically a dog friendly spot lmfao.

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      Mostly agree with the first 2 paragraphs.

      I don’t think dogs should be allowed in restaurants though, regardless of training. The problem is people will say their dog is trained to an expert level, but there’s nothing to actually prove that.

      A flat ban on dogs in restaurants is the right move in my opinion.

      You can maybe make an argument for offices, but honestly, I don’t love dogs, and don’t usually enjoy the presence of one. I’d be fine leaving them out of this environment, but I also understand this is a place people spend 8+ hours a day at, and it’s not feasible/ethical to leave them at home all day by themselves.

      I could be swayed on offices and shops, but I wouldn’t like to see them at restaurants.

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        I don’t think dogs should be allowed in restaurants though, regardless of training. The problem is people will say their dog is trained to an expert level, but there’s nothing to actually prove that.

        There are other instances of people bringing in potentially unwanted things into restaurants that are generally allowed. Take children for example - poorly raised children can raise hell and ruin a restaurant experience for everyone else, but children are usually allowed, with enforcement actions happening after unacceptable behavior has been shown.

        I think a similar policy would be appropriate for animals in restaurants. A well-behaved dog, that goes to rest under the table without bothering anyone during the visit, should not be a problem, while an uncontrolled dog that bothers other guests, tries to steal food or uses the floor as a bathroom should be taken action against.

        On the topic of offices - are dogs left unsupervised for the entire work day in the cases where they cannot be brought in? I’m asking because that’s extremely cruel and in fact illegal where I live - dogs must by law not be left unattended for more than 6 hours.

        I understand how bad dogs can be a problem in offices, but my experience of dog-friendly offices have been nothing but positive - the presence of a well-trained dog generally just brings up everyone’s spirit, and during focused work, the dog rests under the desk and does not bother anyone.

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          Children can can be bloody annoying, but I can still usually eat. If I smelled dog piss, or found fur in my food, that would ruin my meal. I’d rather not have them near where I’m eating. Maybe as an inclusive step, there could be an outdoor/covered patio section where dogs would be allowed, so you could have the option of dining in a separate area with your pet.

          I’m not sure what my local law is for unattended dogs, as it’s never been something I’ve had to consider, but I will say I’ve had neighbours leave their house from dawn until dusk and their dog was left barking on the back patio all day. If I recall correctly, it is a finable offense, and if it’s a repeat issue I think the enforcement body can escalate the situation right up to seizure of the animal.

          Yeah, the offices one I can slide on, as long as I have the ability to be free of dealing with someone else’s dog. I get how for most people, it would lift their spirits. I’m really not a dog person though, and while I accept it’s a benefit for a lot of other people, I generally prefer to not have contact. If that is achievable, then I’m fine with dogs in the office.

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    How does this effect you? Do you envy the attention and affection the dogs are receiving?

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    I literally cannot find a girlfriend because for some reason EVERY girl that I come across on dating sites has “MUST LOVE DOGS” or “I’ll steal your dog” or “I want to own all the dogs.” as one of the first things on their profile… Before even talking about themselves it’s dogs dogs dogs… It’s actually infuriating how obsessed so many of them are with dogs, not because I hate dogs or anything, but just because it’s everyone around me. I’m perpetually a fish out of water.

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    Am I supposed to downvote because I whole heartedly agree? I’ve considered just telling people I’m allergic. I just do not get the fulfilment other people do from being near a dog.

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    I blame the big pet supply stores in the US for normalizing bringing your dog into a store. It was there first, then people started bringing them into the big box home improvements stores - sure the floor is unfinished concrete and everything is hardy so it doesn’t seem like much, but it’s creeping change. Now I see them in almost any sort of store. I don’t care for it.

    Also - why isn’t there a proper certification/accreditation for proper service animals? Like the ones with extensive training? Someone’s untrained anxiety comfort animal or whatever gets treated the same as a trained-from-puppy seeing eye dog?

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    Look, we understand that you are jealous of the dog getting all the attention, but have you ever considered that the folks you were trying to impress just aren’t that into you?

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    Not unpopular with me, I’m fully on board with what you are saying and really dislike the animals and the owners. Letting them into anywhere selling food really is not fucking acceptable.

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    It’s a regional thing. Last place I lived in a small town and the dogs there were poorly trained and always unleashed and I stopped running for that reason. “Oh he doesn’t bite, hahahaha, only snap a little “

    Now I live in a bigger city and the dogs are well behaved, leashed or not. Regularly there are groups with a dog trainer. That really makes a difference.

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    I agree, mostly.

    My parents owned a kennel and bred and boarded and trained dogs, so we had at least a dozen or so full-time residents and generally another dozen or so being boarded and/or trained. I literally grew up surrounded by dogs and I’ve always loved them.

    BUT, dog owners, at this point, are fucking awful, and that’s led to a whole lot of awful dogs, exactly as you so colorfully and accurately say.