original title: ‘An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas’s Slaughter of Innocent Israelis’
What we call “terrorism” is the only means provided to the Palestinians to have a voice. They literally are in a concentration camp. The world’s faux outrage shocked pikachu-face on this one is disgusting. No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
John Brown would like to have a word with you.
In the words of MLK, riots are the voice of the unheard.
What we call “terrorism” is the only means provided to the Palestinians to have a voice. They literally are in a concentration camp.
One point that I think is worth emphasizing with some audiences is that if we are horrified by an alleged atrocity committed by the armed wing of the Palestinian resistance movement, the only thing that can make such resistance and the excesses that may sometimes come with it unnecessary is a range of other options that are actually effective.
So if you want non-violence, do effective non-violence and prove that that it can work. Be the other half of the anti-apartheid movement that makes it possible to some day wind down the violent struggles against apartheid.
Scolding Palestinians about fighting back by the only means left to them doesn’t give them any other options. An end to military aid for Israel and a powerful, growing BDS movement potentially could. When the Palestinian resistance has more leverage and power, parties like Hamas and others will recognize that and come to the negotiating table as fighters of national liberation struggles have done in many other countries. But they have to have leverage and non-violent forms of resistance have to be viable and proven, in order for deescalation to be possible.
The insane propaganda we’re seeing on this Israeli genocide paralells what we saw after 9-11.
This is possibly an inroad for understanding among people of older generations who understand what historic crimes were committed in the US response to 9/11. Because anyone who was around and old enough then can recognize the similarities in the sound of the imperialist wardrums.
No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
Unfortunately libs absolutely would depending on the situation
Asking libs about the Haitian Revolution be like
I’ve definitely seen libs on Reddit say it would have been immoral for Jews to resist against the Nazis. Like, not even kill Nazis, just being obstinate against them.
Awesome Gen-zers understanding the context and history in which an event happens unlike goldfish-brained bourgeois press “journalists”
Internet breaks through information censorship
What’s your icon
It’s two garbage cans that happen to have the Ukranian flag coloration lol
nice, I figured there was some joke I wasn’t seeing lol
Was at a solidarity with Gaza protest the other day in the same town as a small rural state University. The whole town plaza was filled with young people chanting from the river to the sea.
based
Other generations should also be on the side against dropping jdams on children’s hospitals but yeah, of course the older Gen that benefited from imperialism won’t see it that way
It is important to note that the older generations in the Wetsern European diaspora had depended on the enslavement and inheritance thief of Indigenous children in fake schools that began in 1850s and suppoedly ended in 1998 which provided the older generations of immigrants, especially European immigrants, a huge amount of luxury for little work although they falsely attributed their luxurious lives to their own merit. There is no way for the older generations of Western European diapora to understand the savagery and filthy mentality of their violent culture when they benefited greatly from racist double standards.
I’ve been off of mainstream social media for all of this, so my view is limited. But all of the people I’ve been talking to regularly IRL, I’ve been educating or conversing with about this conflict as I educate myself. And so far, across 3 generations, everyone has been pretty receptive to the history and facts, and some are even open to reading a couple books on Palestinian history with me. All of them see the basic justness of the Palestinian cause.
That’s just basic empathy. Anyone who actually looks at the facts will have sympathy for the Palestinian people. The problem is how most MSM is just repeating lies, and same with social media. At least dissident voices (with such obvious correctness) are given a chance on these sites, unlike in the past.
Absolutely. It’s a fortunate thing that nowadays we have a greater capacity than ever to break through the propaganda and access that empathy, and hopefully turn it into widespread international pressure that can strengthen the Palestinian liberation struggle.
If you can convince friends and family members to examine the facts with you, you can make progress towards that end— occasionally even in unexpected places.
original title: ‘An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas’s Slaughter of Innocent Israelis’
Not pictured: The innocence of the citizens of an occupying force
BTW, the Newsweek article itself is still titled with the original title
Generally I’ve been able to compartmentalise my insanity when reading mainstream sources pretty well. But with Gaza I just can’t take it. Even though Isreal is openly run by genocidal far-right ghouls, the idea that maybe their intention is to do ethnic cleansing doesn’t even get entertained. Eventhough they mostly agree that taking Hamas out militarily can’t be done. Do they think the Isrealis are stupid and don’t know this?
I’ll here people go on about how dangerous and crazy the Iranians and their ‘proxies’ are because they are fundamentalists. Motherfucker, that’s Isreal, that’s the US too. Israelis are literally using genocidal bible quotes to justify their actions. Maybe, just fucking maybe they want to do ethnic cleansing.
People that used to go on about how horrible the Russians were for bombing civilians will now call Isreal’s actions ‘impressive’. Fucking imperialist pigs.
I swear to God, this place is the only one I can stomach to visit for updates without it cometely ruining my day.
Oops, wrong thread but close enough.
Let’s go over the poll and how bias the questions are.
ISR4: Do you think it’s true that Hamas terrorists killed 1200 Israeli civilians by shooting them, raping and beheading people including whole families, kids and babies or is that a false story?
This of course ignores the large number of military personnel killed by calling them civilians while also repeating the blood libel claim about babies.
ISR5: Do you think Hamas fighters are more appropriately called militants or terrorists?
Both of these words have a negative connotation in English normally you would use a neutral or positive word to gauge sentiment also the question above already calls them terrorists.
ISR7: Do you think Hamas is designated as a terrorist group by the U.S. government or is that not the case?
This is literally just a knowledge question but in the slides is presented as opinion. Bringing up the official designation just seems like an intentional attempt to bias any subsequent answers.
ISR15: Do you think the recent attack on Israel shows there is widespread antisemitism and hatred of Jews among Palestinians or does the attack reflect the actions of only terrorists and fundamentalists and not the will of Palestinian people?
These are the only two possibilities it couldn’t have anything to do with fighting occupiers.
Seriously, these questions are such shit. The zionists who came up with them couldn’t pretend to be neutral for one poll, and yet they still didn’t get the response they wanted.
These might be the most biased poll questions I’ve ever seen
ISR16: Do you think the recent attack on Israel was intended to provoke war and instability in the Middle East or not?
“Do you think Hamas just wants to see the world burn for the hell of it?”
ISR24: Some people say Hamas and Israel both have fairly equally just causes. Others says that there is no moral equivalency between the terrorist murders of Hamas and the actions of Israel. Which is closer to your view?
“Terrorist murders” vs “actions,” lmfao
ISR25: Do you think Hamas is supported by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza or is Hamas a terror group that rules the people of Gaza with force and fear and is not supported by them?
ISR26: Does Hamas hiding among civilians in Gaza show it has no interest in the safety and well-being of Palestinian citizens of the Gaza Strip, using them as human shields, or is Hamas being protected by the citizens of Gaza?
“Hamas are a bunch of Nazis that murder their own children. Do you think this shows they are seen as evil monsters, or are they liked and well respected?”
ISR31: Given that US intelligence and Israeli intelligence have said and shown evidence that the hospital explosion was caused by an off-course terrorist rocket do you think the explosion was caused by an Israeli airstrike or by a terrorist rocket that went off course?
61% of 18-24 year olds here said Israel caused the hospital airstrike (compared to 10% of 65+)
ISR32: Do you think that the original declarations by Hamas that Israel bombed the hospital were true or Hamas propaganda?
42% of 18-24 year olds here said Israel caused the hospital airstrike, a 19% decline. I guess the loaded language in the previous question wasn’t enough, they had to bring out the “Hamas propaganda” line
Brad Polumbo is a jackass. He’s the founder of Based-politics, which by name alone should tell you what they’re about.
But! Here is a blurb anyway:
We’re a next-generation multi-media hub committed to providing “Based” commentary and reporting. There’s no sugarcoating around here and we won’t be holding back. We’re here to destroy big government and expose corrupt practices, not to shill for a tribe or a political party. Our values are unapologetically rooted in free markets, limiting the government, and individual liberty—we’ll take the side of these principles no matter the cost
Mmmmmm that’s good comedy
I’ll fuckin support the next one too
Should make the hat of this cartoon the green bandana haha
we can get those numbers up
They’re right. 48% is insanely low. I’d have thought it would be higher. Good job Zs
And I’ll support the next one too
Tbh when you force people to choose between Israel and Hamas without even having a “no answer” option most people are gonna be afraid of choosing Hamas, especially when you frame them as baby beheading r*pist terrorists in your prior questions. But half of any western demographic saying they support Hamas is genuinely pretty surprising, this just means a fairly worded poll on Israel v Palestine would have a clear anti-zionist majority for young people
Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli civilians on Israel can be justified by the grievances of the Palestinians?
18-24: 51% justified
Haha holy shit
