Honestly I don’t know what’s going on in the USA. You’re so proud of your “democracy and freedom” yet one of your 2 political parties is able to effectively dismantle the entire thing in less than a decade. You’re now one election away from being a christofascist state.

…and yet you’re all just going to work tomorrow. You’re all doing pretty much nothing except “make sure you vote in 2024.” So I guess every 4 years you’re going to be one election away from a literal Nazi takeover?

I don’t know. Riot or something. I have no idea how you’re all coping so hard.

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        It sounds good until you actually start to think it through. Get rid of the “bad guys”? Fuck yeah! Then who decides who replaces them? What do we do to keep more of the same bad guys from stepping in to fill the power vacuum?

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      Wow, a pile of insults hiding a weak counterargument, color me surprised.

      You know a population organized enough to overthrow the U.S. government will simply overthrow evil corporations too, right? You did consider that, did you?

      After all, if you think you’re so smart then the American people certainly are smart enough to do so.

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        You heard it here ladies, gents, and others. A pile of insults is defined as more than two, and a three paragraph counterargument with multiple points is considered weak and undermined by one “haha, bet you didn’t think of that!” sentence. Sorry bruv. Gotta hard disagree with your stance. I agree things are f***** i ti distopia, but a single organized revolution is both insufficient and monumentally difficult to achieve.

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          And your response is to quibble about what “a pile of insults” means so you don’t have to address what I or anyone else is asking you at all.

          We’re gonna try this again. Did you consider the fact that an armed, organized second American revolution can topple evil corporations as well as it could the U.S. government, if one existed? Yes or no

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            I have shared my thoughts here already, but ok. I’ll play along. I did consider it and it wouldn’t work due to a major split in the populace’s opinion, foreign powers that would get heavily involved, the sheer size of the country, and the inability for the revolutionary force to choose the correct moment to stop violent action.

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              Okay, that’s a good start. Now, do you realize the continental government faced similar problems and yet still managed to forge a new nation into being, and that it can be done again? Yes or no

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                I understand they faced similar problems, but disagree that it can be done again. The problems are vastly larger in scale, and physical barriers that would mitigate problems like foreign influence are easily ignored with advanced technology. E.G. Russian hackers messing with water treatment plants because our current government can’t implement a secure enough system.

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                  Water treatment plants are run at the state and local level and would be far easier for a new government to be secure than a national system like you seem to think we have. You know how water treatment plants work, don’t you? That’s scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to dismissing something as vitally important to human freedom as revolution.

                  Come on. You can do better than that.

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                    Yes, I gave a simple example for ease of following my point. A simple example of thousands of potential targets that would all need to be secured by a new government faster than any one of the hostile powers that would want to capitalize on a revolution.

                    Also, you ask me to do better. I’ll try “harder” after you refute the other things I said. You get to put in that work first.