Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone, spelling disaster for Google’s mobile future

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    11 months ago

    I think iy has to do with the messagin app. For some reason in the us it’s still common to use plain sms messages, which on an iPhone get translated to the blue bubble but when sent to an android become the infamous green bubble.

    This is however not the case in the eu bc sms messages werr still expensive enough timethayt when whatsapp released, everyone did the switch, and now, even if sms are basically free, everyone uses whatsapp as the default messaging app.

    And as we know on whatsapptherec’s no differentiation of anything regardingbthe device you are sending messages to.

    Just my 2 cents on why this could be.

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      which on an iPhone get translated to the blue bubble but when sent to an android become the infamous green bubble.

      The interesting thing is that the green/blue bubble thing is only infamous in the US.

      As you say, outside the US, people use messaging apps like whatsapp or wechat.

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      11 months ago

      The blue bubbles mean you’re using iMessage, which is encrypted. You don’t have to download a separate app owned by Facebook which makes texting iPhone to iPhone so much better.

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          11 months ago

          …which you need to install Google or Samsung messages to take advantage of, so it’s the same thing.

          Until all phones use the same protocols in their stock messages app, SMS will still be used to send between the different platforms.

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            No, which Apple would have to integrate into iMessage.

            Until all phones use the same protocols in their stock messages app

            Literally the point. Everyone is waiting for Apple, EU is considering forcing them (again.)

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            11 months ago

            RCS is a standard and is application and even operating system agnostic. Anyone, including applications outside of Android can support it.

            iMessage is not a standard and certainly not agnostic.

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              Ok, well I still don’t want to install another app to use it so I guess we’re stuck.

              What really needs to happen is for all the phone makers agree to use the same protocols (and I really don’t care which) so we can all have end-to-end encryption by default.

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                That’s the thing. Essentially everyone has agreed, except for Apple. This includes 12 phone manufacturers and at least 55 operators world-wide.

                Even Microsoft since Windows 10 supports RCS in the Your Phone app, so if you’re using a Windows desktop or laptop, even it supports RCS.

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                  11 months ago

                  I hear ya. Yeah I don’t see why they couldn’t incorporate RCS to fall back on instead of SMS. They could even keep iMessage and everything would be better for everyone.

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                  Everybody has agreed that the default messaging app is Whatsapp over here. I haven’t seen anybody use anything else for texting in ages, on either platform.

                  I don’t think you guys realize how bizarre this conversation sounds to me.

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                    Everyone knows, because anytime anyone talks about SMS/MMS/RCS somebody comes in to remind people that it’s mostly a US thing. SMS/MMS started to become cheap in the early 00s in most of the US (and unlimited free for users of the same carrier was common) and as carriers raced to compete by the late 00s, unlimited SMS/MMS was commonly free in the US, even to users outside their own carrier. All carriers had interoperability with SMS/MMS already. Even iMessage falls back to SMS/MMS outside of iMessage. It is pretty logical that SMS/MMS became what most people used in the US.

                    Elsewhere, Whatsapp came out when much of the rest of the world was still paying for the number of text messages sent or they could use a miniscule amount of their data and use something else.

                    We know. It always comes up.

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        11 months ago

        Stupid question, but does imessage allow you to record messages, post videos, pictures, gifs, attach files, hold polls, start groups, etc?

        Or is it still mainly an sms based thing?