Although many among the news media, pundit class and other professional politics-watchers avoid saying this, Trump’s dark charisma can be highly compelling. I’m convinced they feel its allure as well, even if they publicly deny it.
Of course they feel the allure… of those unstoppable ratings. Do you know how many people were glued to the news when Trump was president? By the gods, the getting was good.
It’s like the Network. Just a hierarchy of greedy, vain, profit-seeking, sociopaths taking advantage of a mentally ill man for personal financial gain.
I don’t find him charismatic in the least, what he offers people is a bubble in which they are always right, and everyone else is always wrong. Everything bad is their fault and he is going to get revenge on them for you. He is not charismatic in any normal sense of the word. I just flat out cannot see it. His speeches are meandering word salad, he is sloppy and looks physically unwell with his orange paint and ill fitting suits. But I guess his used car salesman routine does work on some people.
I disagree. I don’t like listening to him, but I can understand why the people that are attracted to right wing grievance politics are entranced by his style.
Like any cult leader, it’s the rhythm of the words. If you’re somebody like me (and presumably you) then you get caught up on the abhorrent things he’s saying. If you generally agree with his premises and nod along, I think it’s easy to almost get hypnotized.
Yeah just typical fascist behavior from someone who we know sucks. Wish we could somehow mix an educated person with the incredible stupid that appeals to regressive voters. I were one of them voters in the past and my god every person here underestimates how ridiculously stupid they are. Like imagine punching yourself in the face, realizing how much it hurt, then doing it a few dozen more times. That’s what Republican voters do every year. I used to enjoy that punch and their voters still do. Tell them they are stupid publicly then they might change and it’s why education fixed me (professors DGAF).
He’s extremely hard to listen to. Apparently, Hitler was like that to - the more educated and intellectual circles made fun of him for rambling like an idiot most of the time, but got in line so long as their work was unaffected
Hitler had a very warm, deep voice. It’s just that stadion sound systems weren’t as good back then. There’s a recording by Finnish intelligence where you can hear his actual voice link.
Hitler did practice his speeches in great detail, making photographic studies of his poses.
I’m not here to aggrandize Hitler, but Trump is lacking in charisma and work ethic in comparison, and somehow people still think it’s his charisma over mass delusion.
It’s actually insane and so is anyone voting for him.
I’ve seen people say many times Trump has charisma. I don’t understand it. He doesn’t even make sense when he speaks. Maybe he is familiar. But not charismatic
Yeah “dark charisma” is often found in people with NPD. Some are immune to it whether entirely or from one specific individual, but it’s a thing. And there’s no moral judgement to immunity to it, most of us who are developed it through prolonged exposure. It’s just that those tempted by it need to put in serious effort to criticize it and not fall to it.
I don’t remember people opposing him publicly remarking that his public opposition secretly found him compelling and charismatic, though they would never publicly admit it.
chilling to read something like that in Salon
Of course they feel the allure… of those unstoppable ratings. Do you know how many people were glued to the news when Trump was president? By the gods, the getting was good.
It’s like the Network. Just a hierarchy of greedy, vain, profit-seeking, sociopaths taking advantage of a mentally ill man for personal financial gain.
I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!
Powerful scene
I don’t find him charismatic in the least, what he offers people is a bubble in which they are always right, and everyone else is always wrong. Everything bad is their fault and he is going to get revenge on them for you. He is not charismatic in any normal sense of the word. I just flat out cannot see it. His speeches are meandering word salad, he is sloppy and looks physically unwell with his orange paint and ill fitting suits. But I guess his used car salesman routine does work on some people.
I disagree. I don’t like listening to him, but I can understand why the people that are attracted to right wing grievance politics are entranced by his style.
Like any cult leader, it’s the rhythm of the words. If you’re somebody like me (and presumably you) then you get caught up on the abhorrent things he’s saying. If you generally agree with his premises and nod along, I think it’s easy to almost get hypnotized.
Yeah just typical fascist behavior from someone who we know sucks. Wish we could somehow mix an educated person with the incredible stupid that appeals to regressive voters. I were one of them voters in the past and my god every person here underestimates how ridiculously stupid they are. Like imagine punching yourself in the face, realizing how much it hurt, then doing it a few dozen more times. That’s what Republican voters do every year. I used to enjoy that punch and their voters still do. Tell them they are stupid publicly then they might change and it’s why education fixed me (professors DGAF).
He’s extremely hard to listen to. Apparently, Hitler was like that to - the more educated and intellectual circles made fun of him for rambling like an idiot most of the time, but got in line so long as their work was unaffected
Contemporaries said the exact same thing about Hitler. Others mocked him for his shrill voice, exaggerated gestures and simplistic speeches.
Hitler had a very warm, deep voice. It’s just that stadion sound systems weren’t as good back then. There’s a recording by Finnish intelligence where you can hear his actual voice link.
Hitler did practice his speeches in great detail, making photographic studies of his poses.
I’m not here to aggrandize Hitler, but Trump is lacking in charisma and work ethic in comparison, and somehow people still think it’s his charisma over mass delusion.
It’s actually insane and so is anyone voting for him.
I’ve seen people say many times Trump has charisma. I don’t understand it. He doesn’t even make sense when he speaks. Maybe he is familiar. But not charismatic
He talks exactly how they do on Facebook. He’s a mirror to them.
Yes he does. But ignorance and racism is probably the only thing he has in common with them.
Yeah “dark charisma” is often found in people with NPD. Some are immune to it whether entirely or from one specific individual, but it’s a thing. And there’s no moral judgement to immunity to it, most of us who are developed it through prolonged exposure. It’s just that those tempted by it need to put in serious effort to criticize it and not fall to it.
I don’t remember people opposing him publicly remarking that his public opposition secretly found him compelling and charismatic, though they would never publicly admit it.