First, urinating or burning any non-living thing is not disrespectful in its own right. Urinating on or burning many living things is also not disrespectful in its own right. The line about where burning living things is bad is different for everyone, but most people are fine with burning or urinating on live mosquitos for example.
The act of urinating on someone else’s property might be disrespectful. But it is not disrespectful to the thing. It is disrespectful to the person.
If I buy a cross and urinate on it in my own home. That is not disrespectful to anyone. Some people might take offense, but only because they are disrespectful of me and my rights. If I urinate or burn my own things in private it is not disrespectful. There is no degrading of anyone.
If I do it in public there may be some form of disrespect. This meme for example is clearly disrespectful of Christian beliefs. Beliefs do not inherently deserve respect. People deserve respect. There is no minimal level of respect an idea deserves. People (and many other living things) do deserve respect.
Actually walking into a church and urinating on their private property, regardless of what it was, should be obviously morally incorrect because it violates other people’s right to their own property and their own freedom to be left alone without interference in their private spaces.
One of the things you fail to understand is that the cathartic release of aggression in a safe community will actually lead to a less hostile mutually shared space (provided that the community doesn’t lead to radicalization).
You may be worried that this kind of material will radicalize someone and that is the point of your post. The reason I didn’t ban you outright is that this is a valid concern in general.
Recognizing the difference between what is morally acceptable in mutually shared spaces vs private spaces is a difficult thing for some people.
It is my hope that not one here would actually physically infringe on another person’s right to freedom. But I am not about to ask people to refrain from sharing their rightfully righteous anger about the way that religious organizations infringe on atheists rights daily…
For the record, I disagree that this post, or the many others like it, are radicalization risks.
As long as we can avoid radicalization and the spread of hateful ideas that’s fine. I post on this group too because i share many of the same opinion about religion and I truly don’t like to have discussions simply for the sake of pi##ing off people. Peace ✌️.
First, urinating or burning any non-living thing is not disrespectful in its own right. Urinating on or burning many living things is also not disrespectful in its own right. The line about where burning living things is bad is different for everyone, but most people are fine with burning or urinating on live mosquitos for example.
The act of urinating on someone else’s property might be disrespectful. But it is not disrespectful to the thing. It is disrespectful to the person.
If I buy a cross and urinate on it in my own home. That is not disrespectful to anyone. Some people might take offense, but only because they are disrespectful of me and my rights. If I urinate or burn my own things in private it is not disrespectful. There is no degrading of anyone.
If I do it in public there may be some form of disrespect. This meme for example is clearly disrespectful of Christian beliefs. Beliefs do not inherently deserve respect. People deserve respect. There is no minimal level of respect an idea deserves. People (and many other living things) do deserve respect.
Actually walking into a church and urinating on their private property, regardless of what it was, should be obviously morally incorrect because it violates other people’s right to their own property and their own freedom to be left alone without interference in their private spaces.
One of the things you fail to understand is that the cathartic release of aggression in a safe community will actually lead to a less hostile mutually shared space (provided that the community doesn’t lead to radicalization).
You may be worried that this kind of material will radicalize someone and that is the point of your post. The reason I didn’t ban you outright is that this is a valid concern in general.
Recognizing the difference between what is morally acceptable in mutually shared spaces vs private spaces is a difficult thing for some people.
It is my hope that not one here would actually physically infringe on another person’s right to freedom. But I am not about to ask people to refrain from sharing their rightfully righteous anger about the way that religious organizations infringe on atheists rights daily…
For the record, I disagree that this post, or the many others like it, are radicalization risks.
As long as we can avoid radicalization and the spread of hateful ideas that’s fine. I post on this group too because i share many of the same opinion about religion and I truly don’t like to have discussions simply for the sake of pi##ing off people. Peace ✌️.