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    Not being able to trade in USD is a huge issue, as it means you are blocked from SWIFT.

    Cuba is not blocked from SWIFT. Currently only Iran and North Korea are blocked from SWIFT. So you’re lying. https://bank-code.net/country/CUBA-(CU).html

    The rest of your points for the paragraph are moot.

    You could argue that the US should not have this much power over world trade

    It doesn’t. It has ultimate control over USD… Which other [foreign] companies choose to use.

    You’re blaming the Cubans for not being able to buy the replacement parts they needed, because the US totally isn’t interfering with their trade.

    Already proven that US does not.

    When the US suffered from hurrican Katrina, Cuba didn’t hesitate to offer aid. When Cuba’s main oxygen plant breaks during a pandemic? Apparently the American people show their humanity by cheering.

    What’s the point?

    And you feel this is just.

    I never said it was just. I never made ANY moral evaluation. Simply stated that it’s not the US’s job to perform this action. Castro can’t demand aid from the US. You can’t call it genocide.

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        Listing data for 2023 as proof of me lying. Cute. How about going back a couple of years?

        Nothing in that link shows SWIFT blocked Cuba. Quite the contrary, I’ve done a relatively exhaustive search… SWIFT has NEVER blocked Cuba. So yes… you’re lying.

        tort law link

        In the common law of most English-speaking countries, there is no general duty to come to the rescue of another.[1]

        Literally the first line in regards to “common law system”.

        Remittance nonsense

        What does this have to do with anything? This doesn’t cover any point regarding any supposed “blockade” (contrarily proves there is no blockade). Doesn’t show that there’s some form of US stranglehold over Cuba (Contrarily shows that USD can make it’s way back to Cuba from Cuban migrants to the USA)… This is all evidence that you’re argument is bullshit.

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          Nothing in that link shows SWIFT blocked Cuba. Quite the contrary, I’ve done a relatively exhaustive search… SWIFT has NEVER blocked Cuba. So yes… you’re lying.

          Why are you so hell bent on defending the American empire against the Cuban people?

          No, you haven’t done a “relatively exhaustive search”, if you had you would have learned that SWIFT has indeed blocked Cuba in the past.

          https://www.dw.com/en/swift-could-slow-trumps-iran-sanctions/a-46119092

          Based in Belgium, SWIFT claims political neutrality, but has bowed to US influence in the past, blocking transactions to Cuba and Iran.

          The SWIFT software manual even admits to auto flagging payments that contain the word “Cuba” even if they’re not related to Cuba (the country) at all 🤣

          https://www.swift.com/sites/default/files/documents/swift_iso20022_thirdpartytoolkit_final.pdf (Page 13)

          In the MT example, it’s highly likely the payment would be one of the 10% typically stopped by a sanctions filter, triggering an investigation. This is because the word ‘Cuba’ appears in the name and address and it’s otherwise unclear where the payment is going.

          In the common law of most English-speaking countries, there is no general duty to come to the rescue of another.

          Demonic worldview, just because your law books used to legitimize slavery would you also practice it?

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            Why are you so hell bent on defending the American empire against the Cuban people?

            I actually don’t particularly care… I just hate looking at these shitty arguments on the topic. When it’s so easily refuted.

            No, you haven’t done a “relatively exhaustive search”, if you had you would have learned that SWIFT has indeed blocked Cuba in the past.

            Oh shit… so we’ve got one instance 22 years ago… And we’re harping on it still today? Are you shitting me?

            The SWIFT software manual even admits to auto flagging payments that contain the word “Cuba” even if they’re not related to Cuba (the country) at all 🤣

            Every financial institution is required to make sure that they’re not violations of actual sanctions/embargos. Also… notice that this says “Investigation” not block. eg… Swift would then have to check that the transaction isn’t with a US-based or US vested company.

            Demonic worldview, just because your law books used to legitimize slavery would you also practice it?

            Nope, but I feel it’s a worse violation of rights to mandate that people do something. I’d rather live somewhere where people are willingly helpful. But you don’t get there by mandating it… Nor do you get there by demanding that “help” under the guise of stating that someone is committing literal genocide, when they’re factually not. Accepting the premise of this “article” is literally the “demonic worldview” to me.

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            Yeah… I should probably stop.

            I kind of have a thing where I can help but put the blatant evidence out there that breaks their whole argument in front of them. I like to watch the meltdown…

            Them: “There’s a blockade!!!”… Me:“So where’s the ships?” Sort of thing…