• dav_man@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I mean we can’t have it both ways. Footballers can be absolute wankers and treat people badly. 100%. But they are also easy targets. Do we want to live in a world whereby at best your career is halted and worst destroyed by unproven allegations?

    I know there are blurred lines. The Greenwood situation for example. Whereby you have some pretty damning things that are made public, and then it’s a bit of a moral/PR conundrum.

    For me though, innocent until proven guilty. Or we decent into chaos.

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      10 months ago

      Innocent until proven guilty means that you don’t get locked up for life without proving that you committed a crime in court. It doesn’t mean you get to be on TV every weekend.

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        10 months ago

        OK, so when you get investigated for something, that you are then not guilty for, do you get all of the losses back? Reputational damage back? You have to draw the line somewhere and I think the law is a sensible place. If you are sidelined you are by extension assumed guilty and that is extraordinarily damaging. It’s not right for those who are not guilty.

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          10 months ago

          No you or I would end up in a massive hole financially most likely. But they will be fine because they’re incredibly wealthy and despite what everyone says the almost immediately find a club to take them.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think it’s that simple.

      I think 3.2% of sexual assault cases lead to a conviction.

      The way the law works, you only need to prove reasonable doubt which is incredible easy when consent is a concept.

      They estimated 85,000 women a year are raped or sexually assaulted. 2022 there were 2,223 charges of rape.

      There does seem to be a priority to protect innocent men against potentially malicious allegations, over prosecuting rapists and reducing the number of women being raped.

      If you remove or erode the social unacceptability of rape and sexual assault, that’s also incredible detrimental.

      To me, it does seem more likely a women isn’t lying than is & knowing that it’s hard to prove, I do still think there needs to be some action.

      I’d like to see a campaign or something by the league. Creating a bit of a dialogue about sexual assault.

      It’s why I think a stronger female presence in the game is so important. We need more women’s voices in the game