• Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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    10 months ago

    At this point there is zero doubt left that Musk is an idiot.

    All he did was being born rich and being lucky with his investments so far.

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    10 months ago

    “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company,” he said.

    Nobody owes you anything, you idiot. Businesses have the right to decide not to advertise with you, people have the right not to go to your platform, groups have the right not to host their content there. Your business was a convenient and vaguely congenial place for everyone to meet, but that’s not true anymore.

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    10 months ago

    Elon Musk finally learns the real truth that no one really wants to say: There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

    If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

    Being held at virtual gunpoint from corporations is no different from being held at actual gunpoint from governments. This is why right-wingers complain about bannings, because, well, they have a point. Even left-wingers get hit with this too, as certain Palestine supporters that aren’t careful enough with their wording are finding out.

    I’d rather at least have the government say “To promote social cohesion and understanding, saying X opinion about Y groups of people, and stating Z false information will no longer be allowed”. Don’t get me wrong, that’s still invasive as hell and a horrifying precedent to set, but having to walk on eggshells for fear of virtual lynch mobs that can pop up at will and say “He said X he said X fire him and uproot his life or we will drag you through the mud and make you lose precious consumer money!!!” with little rhyme or reason, never stopping until their existence in society is ruined is not something that a society should support either.

    That is simply vigilante justice via keyboard instead of handgun.

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      10 months ago

      Free speech is about protecting people from a government response to their speech, and even that carves out exceptions for incitement to violence, yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc. I know you mention government bans of certain language, but it misses the mark of what we have defined free speech to be, which is protection from government reprisal.

      I have to disagree with the notion that we don’t have free speech because people face consequences for what they say. Those consequences may be an inducement to behave in a social cohesive or expected way, but even if you wanted to protect people from that, it would require infringing on others rights. The advertisers have a right not to be associated with Musk. I have a right to dissociate from racists. The only way to protect racists from these consequences would be to infringe on my right not to associate with them.

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      10 months ago

      There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

      If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

      Free speech is when you can say things without consequences, apparently? So I guess your free speech to say stupid shit is more important than other peoples’ free speech to react to what you say or to choose not to associate with you?

      I’m surprised at how many knuckledraggers seem to forget that freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, and freedoms go both ways.

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      10 months ago

      You’re fucking around right?

      If you say shitty things then expect shitty responses.

      Why should we have to have a law about it?

      Does this mean I have to shop from someone who says things I disagree with?

      It’s the social contract friend, at least we aren’t in England or Russia where people are getting arrested over blank pieces of paper.

      Although that might have changed already for all I know.

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    10 months ago

    “The whole world will know those advertisers killed the company, and we will document it in great detail,” he added.

    Absolute spoiled bratt, nothing is his fault.

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    10 months ago

    You know, at this point, any sensible company will take a single look at Musk’s tantrums and decide that advertising on Twitter is a massive legal liability they cannot afford. Not only is their public image in danger because the content is so badly moderated and offensive content is allowed, but Musk threatens to sue them if they even consider terminating their existing campaigns. Heck, this is to say nothing about the impersonators. The only way for brands to stay safe is to get the hell out and just state that they have no official presence on Twitter. Staying on Twitter is just a disaster waiting to happen.

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    10 months ago

    Elon seems more and more like an escaped mental patient…

    I think the stress is really getting to him, I feel kinda bad for him actually…

    Or, I would feel bad for him, if he wasn’t a complete dickhead.

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      10 months ago

      There is literally nothing he could do or anything that could happen to him that would make me feel bad for him.

      Everything that’s happening is 10% of what he deserves.

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        10 months ago

        At this point, even if he broke down crying in front of me in a private room, I would assume it was an act to scam me, either out of money, or attention.

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      10 months ago

      Idk what’s funnier him doing everything gnhe can tondestroy it or then people who claim to hate him and Twitter writing essays on why they have tonkeep using it and propping it up.

      An unstoppable object versus an immovable force.

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      10 months ago

      That was a deafening silence while he waited for everybody to laugh with him.

      Better say it again but louder and while maintaining awkward eye contact

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    10 months ago

    One day, Elon will no longer exist. That will be a good day for humanity. But sadly he’s just a symptom of the billionaires-exist problem. If a matter-energy conversion device ever gets invented and hopefully democratized, money will become meaningless – and it will drown people like him in their own narcissism.