• qooqie@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Legalize prostitution and get rid of the stigma. It being illegal only hurts the women (mostly) in the long run. With legalization you could get rid of a lot of abuse and make it easy for these women to come forward if there is abuse. I think it would also make underage trafficking harder if prostitution was legalized.

    I think we’re a long way from that, but one can hope for society.

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      Hurting women is the point. By keeping some people’s primary form of income illegal they can be superexploited, just like undocumented migrant workers. It’s no coincidence that they’re also similarly at risk of kidnapping, trafficking, and violence. No work insurance, no safety net, no legal protection, no rights, no dignity, and if you get caught you are the one that gets punished instead of the people who exploit you.

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        I don’t think hurting women is the point, more like a bonus or icing on the cake.

        The point is to maintain a facade that our culture is ‘above’ such kind of behavior, even though everyone with a brain knows it’s not.

        Same kind of sentiment that allows Christians/Catholics to have sex out of wedlock but still think they’re ‘holier than’ everyone else who does the same.

        It’s all just hypocrisy and insecurity.

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          Our culture is very much in favor of hurting women, so it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. The harm to women is far too consistent to be a coincidence.

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      9 months ago

      Sex is legal, selling thing is legal but selling sex is… Illegal?

      Can someone show me the logic here?

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            So what’s the solution? Thousands of years of making it illegal to some degree or another does not seem to work.

            Or perhaps sex is deeply ingrained in the human psyche just as much as food is, and we shouldn’t consider that a problem?

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              Murder has been there since the beginning and making it illegal doesn’t seem to work. Should we just make legal? I think prostitution only plays into women being sexual objects for men.

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                  What even was that persons comparison. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills sometimes. How are sex and murder even slightly related? I’m sure if I was 14 again I’d say something like “they give and take life, they are two sides of the same coin” or something like that that totally misses the fucking point.

                  ^(I’m replying to you because last time replied to one of these people directly I was botted for like a week. )

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                …if you go to Pahrump, NV where prostitution is legal, those women are independent contractors who set their own prices and can turn anyone that they don’t feel comfortable with serving away. Additionally, clients must use protection AND the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.

                Compare that to the women who prostitute themselves illegally and are subjected to all the dangers of rape, abuse, and murder.

                I used to think like you. While I was researching a paper I was writing (arguing against the legalization of prostitution mind you), I ended up at a completely different conclusion. My conclusion did not support my thesis and I wrote it that way.

                Open your mind a bit, and see that legalization protects EVERYONE (except prudes I guess)

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                  the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.

                  Wonder what the response time is on that button press? Would have thought they would employ bouncers on-site to handle that kind of thing.

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    So here’s something “funny.”

    When police do undercover stings to arrest customers of sex workers, they’re described as HUMAN TRAFFICKING STING. And here, on the other hand, this person is described as prostitute [and] working escort.

    Schroedinger’s sex worker?

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      One of several reasons we have so much reported “human trafficking” cases in the US is because our current laws make it so that any time more than one person is working in an organization involved in sex work, it can magically get redefined as human trafficking even if no workers were forced to be there doing the job.

      There have been cases of two sex workers that were roommates being accused of trafficking each other because the material aid of being roommates qualified them as traffickers. Or drivers employed by a sex worker to literally escort them to and from clients/airports to take them to and from the airport being busted as pimps and traffickers.

      And of course, the whole thing about interstate travel turning sex work into trafficking is loaded with its own horseshit. It’s just a reality for a sex worker that the “new girl in town” gets more business, so there’s a huge financial incentive for the worker to occasionally do some business travel.

      On top of that, when a brothel or organization gets broken up, frequently all the sex workers are offered deals where they have to say they were trafficked and go after the businesses organizers, seen as the “bigger fish”.

      For one layer worse, now hotels are being super, super hostile to “human trafficking” but really all their “warning signs” and policies are just meant to stop sex workers. So sex workers are forced increasingly to ply their trade in unsafe locations like cars / client accommodations instead of fairly safe hotels. Meanwhile, the hotels themselves ACTUALLY benefit the REAL human trafficking threat that we should be trying to address – immigrant wage slavery. Because the hotels frequently are the ones subcontracting things like cleaning to incredibly shady sub-minimum wage exploitative employers that are doing actual trafficking-related stuff. So many of the very things that are causing REAL trafficking are using trafficking to attack sex workers for no reason other than puritanical bigotry.

      There’s infinitely more to say here, but I just can’t do the whole thing justice. Here’s a really good podcast episode on the subject that is sensitive and clear about how much nonsense there is in the current, widespread “trafficking” moral panic and how much harm it does compared to the good it preaches.

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    The publication reported that a judge had signed an injunction in 2016 that prohibited specific children to visit “any place of Ashley Villalobos’ residence” because she was a “known prostitute.”

    Lmao it’s like she’s poisonous or something, what the fuck

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    Wait… Is there a difference between a prostitute and an escort? The headline makes it sound like she stopped being the former and is currently the latter.

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      It’s threading a very fine legal loophole. An “escort” is paid for their time, only promising to show up. They have sex with you “because I like you”. It’s bullshit, you know it’s bullshit, they know it’s bullshit, and the police know it’s bullshit, but it’s enough to wiggle out of legal trouble.

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      “Prostitution” references a specific crime. They’re saying that she’s been convicted of that crime by including it in the headline. “Escort” is an occupation.

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    9 months ago

    I guess I’m old school, but I really don’t want my daughter looking up to a prostitute or an OnlyFans woman as a role model.

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    9 months ago

    “Convicted prostitute” is not the condemnation the article-writer thinks it is… Work is work!

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    Something that bugs me: why does the headline/article seem so focused on her being a mother? Lots of people have kids. Shouldn’t it say teacher or woman?

    Edit: she wasn’t a teacher but served on an advisory schoolboard council. I didn’t read the article.

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      My first thought was well. “Father expelled as PE teacher after being exposed as convicted marathon runner.”