• Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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    10 months ago

    Is it just me or is $19 million per year for 50 full-time employees insane?

    Even for US salary standards.

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      10 months ago

      For the current distribution I quote from the linked source :

      Current Infrastructure Costs (as of November 2023): Approximately $14 million dollars per year.

      • Storage: $1.3 million dollars per year.
      • Servers: $2.9 million dollars per year.
      • Registration Fees: $6 million dollars per year.
      • Total Bandwidth: $2.8 million dollars per year.
      • Additional Services: $700,000 dollars per year.
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        10 months ago

        Yes, but I was talking about the salary part, which is separate from the costs you mentioned.

        It’s 19 million just for people.

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        10 months ago

        Also from the source:

        To sustain our ongoing development efforts, about half of Signal’s overall operating budget goes towards recruiting, compensating, and retaining the people who build and care for Signal. When benefits, HR services, taxes, recruiting, and salaries are included, this translates to around $19 million dollars per year.

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      10 months ago

      Not at all. That’s $380K per person if everyone is making the same. Engineers with a few years of experience at Meta make $400K+.

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        10 months ago

        Don’t forget the employer taxes, insurance, recruitment costs and so on. It wouldn’t surprise me if the employees are earning on average half that.

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      10 months ago

      Not necessarily.

      Signal has people who are experts in their field. They engineer solutions that don’t exist anywhere else in the market to ensure they have as little information on you as possible while keeping you secure [0]. This in turn means high compensation + benefits. You don’t want to be paying your key developers peanuts as that makes them liable to taking bribes from adversaries to “oops” a security vulnerability in the service. In addition, the higher compensation is a great way to mitigate losing talent to private organizations who can afford it.

      [0] Signal has engineered the following technologies that all work to ensure your privacy and security:

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        10 months ago

        At least the private contact discovery is not very private:

        The client calculates the truncated SHA256 hash of each phone number in the device’s address book.
        The client transmits those truncated hashes to the service.

        Phone numbers are so not-sparse that there even was a game to text your “number neighbor”. I can probably build a pretty effective rainbow table for this with my current hardware.

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      10 months ago

      Role of thumb is an employee costs roughly twice their base salary, as the employee still needs to cover insurance, taxes, sick time, and other benefits.

      That leaves an average salary of 190K for the 50 employees. That isn’t much for tech.