The report released by the Defense Department inspector general revealed that in fiscal 2023 there were 183 allegations of extremism across all the branches of military.
Sure, but again I think you’re underestimating just how enormous the US military industrial complex is. It’d take a notable percentage of mid to high ranking individuals to cause a significant amount of damage to the US’s military. You also have to consider the military isn’t just service members, but also civilians and contractors, so add in another few million people to that number.
Jan 6th wasn’t even remotely close to Trump actually succeeding in his half-assed coup attempt. The only real danger during that election was from the conspicuous attempts from Trump to get states to overrule the election results, which has nothing to do with the military.
I’m not saying this particular report isn’t concerning, I’m just saying it isn’t cause to become seriously worried for the future of the military’s allegiance to the constitution and their impact on the democratic process.
Jan 6th wasn’t even remotely close to Trump actually succeeding in his half-assed coup attempt.
Do you seriously think that? If Pence hadn’t done his job and went along with not certifying the election, Trump would more than likely still be in power. They would have sent it to the states to overturn their votes and he would have claimed victory. The SCOTUS was put in place just for that reason and just like in Gore vs. Bush, they would probably would have sided with Trump. There’s precedence.
What? I think you underestimate how blocking the certification process would have turned the entire US government and state legislatures against Trump and Pence. The courts would NOT have ruled in their favor, even with hard right courts. They’d most likely just defer the issue to Congress, where they’d then have to contend with both the House and the Senate, the majority of which was NOT on board with Trump’s half-brained coup attempt.
I don’t see the vast majority of the top brass ever changing on that stance. There might be some extremist generals that would, but they’d be in the minority and certainly wouldn’t go far and would quickly be relieved of duty.
Jan. 6 was a test run and went further than they expected. The real thing is probably coming and it’s going to be bad. There’s a chance of saving this country, but it requires a contingent of people realizing they’re wrong and those people aren’t you or I.
At the time it felt like that, but this SCOTUS thankfully seems unwilling to entertain his election BS.
Remember, SCOTUS is powerful because the US is a stable constitutional democracy. In fascist coups the judiciary is typically first put against the wall. All justices not named Clarence Thomas are smart enough to understand this.
Sure, but again I think you’re underestimating just how enormous the US military industrial complex is. It’d take a notable percentage of mid to high ranking individuals to cause a significant amount of damage to the US’s military. You also have to consider the military isn’t just service members, but also civilians and contractors, so add in another few million people to that number.
Jan 6th wasn’t even remotely close to Trump actually succeeding in his half-assed coup attempt. The only real danger during that election was from the conspicuous attempts from Trump to get states to overrule the election results, which has nothing to do with the military.
I’m not saying this particular report isn’t concerning, I’m just saying it isn’t cause to become seriously worried for the future of the military’s allegiance to the constitution and their impact on the democratic process.
Do you seriously think that? If Pence hadn’t done his job and went along with not certifying the election, Trump would more than likely still be in power. They would have sent it to the states to overturn their votes and he would have claimed victory. The SCOTUS was put in place just for that reason and just like in Gore vs. Bush, they would probably would have sided with Trump. There’s precedence.
What? I think you underestimate how blocking the certification process would have turned the entire US government and state legislatures against Trump and Pence. The courts would NOT have ruled in their favor, even with hard right courts. They’d most likely just defer the issue to Congress, where they’d then have to contend with both the House and the Senate, the majority of which was NOT on board with Trump’s half-brained coup attempt.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3520160-pences-lawyer-told-him-blocking-vote-certification-would-likely-lead-to-court-loss-standoff-with-congress/
Even Pence’s lawyer consulted him that they would almost certainly lose if he opted to block it.
And back to the original context of this whole comment chain, even the US military’s top brass at the time all said they would NOT back Trump’s claims and would absolutely not support his coup. https://thehill.com/policy/defense/563117-top-generals-feared-trump-would-attempt-coup-after-election-and-had-informal/
I don’t see the vast majority of the top brass ever changing on that stance. There might be some extremist generals that would, but they’d be in the minority and certainly wouldn’t go far and would quickly be relieved of duty.
Just like separating families, the Muslim ban and all the other crazy crap you’ve forgot about, I’m glad we didn’t have to find out.
Jan. 6 was a test run and went further than they expected. The real thing is probably coming and it’s going to be bad. There’s a chance of saving this country, but it requires a contingent of people realizing they’re wrong and those people aren’t you or I.
At the time it felt like that, but this SCOTUS thankfully seems unwilling to entertain his election BS.
Remember, SCOTUS is powerful because the US is a stable constitutional democracy. In fascist coups the judiciary is typically first put against the wall. All justices not named Clarence Thomas are smart enough to understand this.
I agree that the SCOTUS didn’t go for this one, but there is no guarantee that they will continue to rule that way. They’re pretty corrupt.