I was looking into Tailscale which I thought to be complexly open source, but it turns out that their coordination server is closed source. If you want to run your own open source coordination server, Headscale is the go-to option.

This is no fault of their own (as they freely express this in their FAQ) it’s just that I had always been told by people that Tailscale was fully open source. This got me wondering what else is not as open source as people widely accept it to be?

  • thekrautboy@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    What is a self-hosted app/os/service/ect

    Just what…?? smh

    Another genious post from you was recently:

    What switch would be good to run openWRT on that is proven reliable and resource capable? It would need at least 10x 1Gb ports, but I guess more would be better to use link aggregation. I only have 1.2 Gbs upload speed so I don't need anything too industrial.

    I'm looking to spend under $500 on one and I'm perfectly willing to buy used from eBay. (I got my supermicro board and xeon and ecc ram used there for my NAS and they've been going great for a couple years now.)

    And then you deleted it.

    I was looking into Tailscale which I thought to be complexly open source, but it turns out that their coordination server is closed source. If you want to run your own open source coordination server, Headscale is the go-to option.

    Yes, so if you want to fully selfhost Tailscale, use Headcale. Whats the problem?

    that I had always been told by people that Tailscale was fully open source.

    Stop listening to “those people” then.

    This got me wondering what else is not as open source as people widely accept it to be?

    Portainer Business Edition (afaik) isnt open source but the Community Edition is.

    • lannistersstark@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Seek therapy. Your responses are neither helpful nor witty. If anything, you’re a menace to humanity, your family, your ‘friends’ (if you had any), and general society around you. I feel sorry for anyone who has to interact with you on a regular basis. Your mother would be ashamed of you.

      I hope you become a better person.

      • obrb77@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Yes, the comment is not nice, but also not wrong imho. I mean, what’s the point of the question? OP got wrong or inaccurate information from random people (probably on reddit) and is now asking random people on reddit if there are other things that random people on reddit are giving wrong or inaccurate information about ;-)

        • AllTheModzAreCancer@alien.topOPBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          what’s the point of the question?

          The premise of the question is to open a discussion about software that lives in a de facto state of being completely open source.

          ​

          asking random people on reddit

          As opposed to asking whom on a hodgepodge full of strangers?

          ​

          if there are other things that random people on reddit are giving wrong or inaccurate information about

          As opposed to not opening a discussion where erroneous information is not brought to attention…

  • CWagner@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Weird, who are those people saying that? Never heard of TS, Obsidian, or PFSense being open source.

    TS is the only one I use, and I know they employ people working on headscale.

  • azukaar@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Tailscale is using “being opensource” as a marketing term and it’s working. The coordination server is a center piece of the architecture, the client being open is meaningless

    Another example of this is Plex, many people don’t actually know the fact that it went closed and that only the client is open source

    • ck_@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      10 months ago

      This is a non-sense argument. The client does all the heavy lifting while the “coordination server” is basically a glorified REST server you can in most parts replace with a web server hosting a bunch of static JSON files.

      Tailscale is open source in all aspects that really matter, that being the protocols used and all aspects regarding security.

  • agent_kater@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Telegram is known for being open source, but since it isn’t, you can’t self-host it. Does that count in the sense if your question?

    • lilolalu@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I am not a fan of telegram, but the clients and the protocol are open source.

      • tech2but1@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Where Telegram seems to come in handy is using the bots to send alerts, e.g. from Uptime Kuma. That’s all I use it for, I presume that’s what most of us use it for?

        • lilolalu@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          If that’s what you are using it for, I would suggest looking into Matrix / Element. Just as easy, completely open source and self hostable. Wide variety of client choices for every OS.

          • FierceDeity_@alien.topBEnglish
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            10 months ago

            The server, though, is made in pretty inefficient python, eating a lot of resources to run. There are rust, c++ and go implementations promising to be less intensive

    • d_maes@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Quick scroll through their github tells me they are OSS, some things under AGPL and some under Apache2. What makes you think they aren’t?