• bermuda@beehaw.org
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    10 months ago

    it sucks when people are mean to you though? I’ve had cars full of teens laughing at me for being overweight and I honestly cried afterwards. I don’t think it makes me fragile for that.

    it feels like you just used that as a chance to shit on people

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      10 months ago

      Sorry that may sound mean, but for me that’s the definition of beeing fragile. I don’t want to use that as a slur, but if you need to cry after people where assholes, than you are indeed fragile.

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        10 months ago

        Sorry that may sound mean, but for me that’s the definition of beeing fragile.

        Apologizing before you say something doesn’t suddenly negate the mean-ness of it. You’re still an asshole.

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          10 months ago

          Being laughed at for how your body is is one thing, being laughed at for buying a fascist’s ChildishCompensationMobile is another. It’s a choice to buy Jeff Bezos’ $100,000 Dick Mobile and drive it around like you’re cool, it’s another to… try and exist? As best you can? Corporeally?

          Like no I don’t need to worry about the feelings of anyone who gives Trump money and allegiance. They made bad choices that materially affect me (how many Twitters can these guys buy up and turn into a KKK Safe Place with this money?) and I can tell them they suck for it. Completely not the same as giving redheads swirlies.

          Like, for context I also give distainful looks at poor drivers in BMWs and Benzes: obviously money didn’t give them sense. So yes I’ll laugh at anyone giving Musk money after knowing his true colors.

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            10 months ago

            See, my issue (not the person you’re talking to but the person who sparked this conversation) was with the original commenters generalization.

            I get you. I really do. But when you get rid of all the fluff and just say “people laugh at you, you’re hurt, you’re fragile,” it has implications that go way beyond Elon Musk. That’s the issue. If they had bothered to specify the stuff you did then maybe I wouldn’t be upset by it, but they deliberately chose not to. Just like the people you don’t like deliberately chose to buy that car.

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          10 months ago

          I think I can see their point. As they said, fragile isn’t meant as a slur here. If after the tenth time it happens, this kind of thing breaks you, then you’re fragile because the nine times before that made you fragile. Which obviously isn’t your fault but the fault of the people who were assholes to you.

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      10 months ago

      Hey man, I’m sorry you’ve have to go through this. I’m not really a fan of “words of affirmation” that people spout out at the end of their YouTube videos, but I just wanna say, I agree that having to endure that is an objectively shitty situation, those kids are definitely assholes, and I believe you are capable of laughing back at their awkward pimply faces 😁.

      The phrasing of “normalize being hurt by these kinda things” maybe doesn’t sound how you meant it lol. I agree that we’ll never live in a world free of assholes, but rather than say “suck it up and deal” we should be proponents for each other, to help each other “grow”. Calling someone fragile isn’t helpful to them.

      This topic reminds me of Brandolini’s Law (aka the bullshit asymmetry principle) which says that it’s at least an order of magnitude easier to make up false claims than it is to disprove them. I feel like this extends to human emotions as well: it’s at least an order of magnitude easier to be an asshole and tear someone down emotionally than it is for that person to recover from it. Idk if it that’s useful to point out, but hopefully it makes it easier to recover from a shitty comment knowing that the person who made it probably didn’t put half a brain cell into generating it.