I know “Shovrim Shtika”. They are doing important work.
Like I said, there are bad apples and bad things are being done.
But it’s not everyone. And not even the majority.
When I was serving, I have never encountered a situation where any of my team members did anything like that. But I know these things exist.
In most of the cases I heard of, these things were taken very seriously inside the IDF and people were kicked out and sentenced.
Unfortunately, occupation is corrupting the soul and in recent years the cases have grown in numbers. Add to that the horrible government Israel currently has and you get a shit show.
IDF does systemic abuse and torture of Palestinians
You: there are bad apples and bad things are being done.
LOL, bad apples. Nope. It’s systemic, whether you like it or not.
I’m glad you didn’t see any of this “crap” while serving, but I highly doubt it’s not “widespread”.
There have been too many incidents of dead journalists where the IDF just denied and denied and denied until the truth came out, as usual.
I’m really sorry to know that young people are brought to join this death and apartheid machine. No one should serve in the army at 18 against their will.
That being said… don’t let your personal experience cloud your judgment. Don’t let it prevent you from seeing the systemic abuse happening, that many of your colleagues probably did, and continue to do, and are doing right now.
All I was trying to convince you is that Israel is not all evil. I can give you countless examples where Palestinians have been treated very well by Israel and by IDF soldiers.
I don’t blame you for your haitred. It’s a product of your experience. I wish you all the well and that you will find peace one day (all of us).
I know “Shovrim Shtika”. They are doing important work.
Like I said, there are bad apples and bad things are being done.
But it’s not everyone. And not even the majority.
When I was serving, I have never encountered a situation where any of my team members did anything like that. But I know these things exist. In most of the cases I heard of, these things were taken very seriously inside the IDF and people were kicked out and sentenced.
Unfortunately, occupation is corrupting the soul and in recent years the cases have grown in numbers. Add to that the horrible government Israel currently has and you get a shit show.
IDF does systemic abuse and torture of Palestinians
You: there are bad apples and bad things are being done.
LOL, bad apples. Nope. It’s systemic, whether you like it or not. I’m glad you didn’t see any of this “crap” while serving, but I highly doubt it’s not “widespread”.
There have been too many incidents of dead journalists where the IDF just denied and denied and denied until the truth came out, as usual.
I’m really sorry to know that young people are brought to join this death and apartheid machine. No one should serve in the army at 18 against their will.
That being said… don’t let your personal experience cloud your judgment. Don’t let it prevent you from seeing the systemic abuse happening, that many of your colleagues probably did, and continue to do, and are doing right now.
You have a very dichotomous view of this subject.
All I was trying to convince you is that Israel is not all evil. I can give you countless examples where Palestinians have been treated very well by Israel and by IDF soldiers.
I don’t blame you for your haitred. It’s a product of your experience. I wish you all the well and that you will find peace one day (all of us).
some odd good treatment does not mean that systemic abuse is not present.
I would recommend BTselem and the tens of other organizations documenting the systemic abuse of Israel.
I don’t blame you for your ignorance. It’s a product of your experience.