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    Not steal aid from Gazans and use it to fund their jihad.

    Not corrupt Gazan schools.

    Not run a theocratic state.

    Not have the destruction of Israel as their sole goal

    Normalize relations with Israel, Egypt, and Jordan

    Not kidnap, torture, and kill dissidents

    Build any sort of infrastructure with the money they’re given

    Things like that

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      And how productive do you think this will be Israel intentionally keeps Gaza’s economy on the brink of collapse (by their own words).

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        The blockade only existed due to Hamas seizing power.

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            Yes - give them their own country for the first time in human history.

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              No, it won’t give them back some of their stolen land, but settlements will start probing up, and armed raids followed by murders and mass arrests will become commonplace.

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        Which ones? Israel isn’t a theocracy. Israel has secular and private schools just like all free countries. Israel doesn’t steal from their people. 10/7 happened because Israel is normalizing relations, and did not succeed in ending that process, etc.

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            It’s literally a secular state lol.

            Islam is the second-largest religion in Israeli and Israeli Muslims have full rights and representation in government.

            Israel is the “official state of the Jewish people” but not only a state for the Jewish people. It’s just the one that reliably won’t exterminate them.

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              If i said: South Africa is the official state of the white people. How would you feel about it?

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                White people is a race, so it’s a little different. Also S.A. has a history of apartheid, so that would be worrying for them specifically.

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                  Ok, so you agree that israel differenciates between religions.

                  Positive descrimination is still discrimination, especially then you discriminate in favor of the majority.

                  Example: USA is the state of the cristian people. Is this good? Is this secular?

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                    I don’t believe an argument can realistically be made that the US is particularly Christian at all, as a government.

                    Some conservatives use Christianity as a tool to get elected though.

                    A Christian nation, for instance, would take care of their poor and welcome immigrants.