Eyewitness testimony reported Wednesday by Al Jazeera accused Israeli troops of massacring forcibly displaced women and children sheltering at a school in northern Gaza,

The Israeli soldiers came in and opened fire on them," one unidentified witness said. “They took all men, then entered classrooms and opened fire on a woman and all the children with her,” including “newborn children.”

“The Israeli soldiers executed those innocent families point-blank,” she added.

A man who arrived at the scene after the alleged mass murder told Al Jazeera that “we found dozens of dead bodies in the classrooms.”

“There is no sign of any missiles or shells,” he added. “All those who were in the buildings were executed from point-blank. The Israeli soldiers opened fire on them. Many families came searching for their children. They found them all killed. They were all killed, executed at gunpoint.”

  • Airazz@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Who is the witness? Why are random people walking around there? Or was it just another Hamas fighter who made stuff up to make Israel look bad?

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        Yeah, that’s not evidence of anything. It’s clearly staged by Hamas, as so many other examples. Israel doesn’t go around killing children, Hamas does. They’re quite proud of it too, they posted lots of videos of it on tiktok.

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          The current death toll shows your comment to be pretty false. Israel has been bombing indiscriminately and killing children for the past 2 months.

          A senior Israeli official told journalists on Monday that around a third of those killed in Gaza so far were enemy combatants, estimating their number at less than 10,000 but more than 5,000, without detailing how the estimate was reached. The official said the total count of some 15,000 dead as of Monday given by Palestinian authorities, who do not break down the count between civilians and combatants, is “more or less” right

          The PA health ministry said on Tuesday about 70% of Gaza’s dead were women and children under 18

          Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-have-died-gaza-war-how-will-counting-continue-2023-12-06/

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    What a bold military strategy! Kill the Hamas insurgents while they’re still children at school before they’ve ever handled a weapon! Brilliant!

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    As of press time, the alleged massacre had not been independently verified.

    It is irresponsible to publish such serious accusations without verification.

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      What would independent verification mean on this? Who would qualify as independent that could reach the scene and evaluate it? At some point you can’t just decide that since the invading and allegedly responsible power doesn’t allow international investigations then no potential crime can ever be responsibly reported.

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          What statement? I think that it hasn’t been independently verified is essential, because it’s true, but the person I responded to wanted the entire story to not be published.

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        I watched the video from Al Jazeera. There are blurred sections, but at no point does it show blood or anything that is unambiguously a human body. I don’t expect that corpses with gunshot wounds would be broadcast on TV, but that still leaves commondreams.org with no evidence beyond several brief interviews filmed by Al Jazeera. I do expect that if this event took place, impartial news agencies would have access to uncensored images of the aftermath. I’m going to wait and see if the New York Times publishes something.

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          There are blurred sections, but at no point does it show blood or anything that is unambiguously a human body.

          So, what you’re saying is that there’s enough ground to believe that this news organization, Al Jazeera, has fabricated dead bodies. The journalist team blurred a pile of puppets or something and went on-air, lying they’re human bodies. That’s an interesting take…

          Alright, I’m out. I have nothing more to say to you.

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            I won’t believe it without unblurred pictures. It’s not that hard; links to gory pictures should be included with a warning in these kinds of articles.

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                Yes, but they already have them. They could just publish the footage without editing it. The footage already does look compelling, but it would be better if it was unblurred.

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      Hey sorry, I’m just a bit curious about when you developed this strongly held view as it seems at odds with your previous posts?

      Like for instance here where you readily accepted Israel’s claims about Ibrahim Biari being in the refugee camp they bombed without independent verification?

      I’m guessing some profound and enlightening experience in this past month has convinced you to be more critical of news sources and your previous comment has nothing to do with your support of Israel’s actions such as your genocide denial or making excuses for why bombing a refugee camp was actually okay.

      It just feels like your comment was made in bad-faith here, but I’m sure it was well intended.

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        I admit that that comment was flippant, but you’ll note that I said “apparently” there. I admit that Ibrahim Biari’s death has still not been confirmed, although I’m also unaware of any strong evidence that he is still alive.

        With that said, I do think that Israel’s claim is less difficult to believe. It wouldn’t be surprising that a specific person Israel wants dead would be among the many people killed in that bombing, whereas it would be surprising if Israeli soldiers executed a group of women and children, at least because doing that would be absolutely terrible for Israel’s international relations. Even countries which accept that civilians will be killed by bombing aren’t going to support deliberate murder.

        I’m not saying it’s impossible. Soldiers do things like that sometimes. I am saying it’s unlikely enough that commondreams.org shouldn’t be publishing what is effectively still just a rumor.