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    9 months ago

    This is what you show people when they say they don’t care about privacy because they have nothing to hide.

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    Why the fuck do people put security cameras in their bedrooms? It’s so weird to me that people do this. Even if you think (or at least thought) that you were the only one with access to the footage, won’t the presence of a camera make you feel like you’re being watched? Are we not on camera enough as it is that we have to be on camera in the supposed privacy of our bedrooms? Imagine if you told George Orwell that people would willingly put cameras in their most personal and private spaces.

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      Some do it to potentially document accidents - I know some racial minorities in my country that say they are accused of child abuse and investigated at the drop of the hat if they bring their kid to the doctor and they have any kind of bruise. I heard of a Muslim woman who lost custody of her kid for 48 hours until she was able to produce CCTV footage of her child breaking his arm in a playground accident, and not due to some act of child abuse.

      So, having a cam that catches your kid experiencing an innocuous fall wherever it may be in the house is a good security measure, particularly if the justice system comes at you preloaded with bias.

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    Yet another reason why IoT crap sucks. You don’t need to put everything on the internet. This one should be obvious.

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      People don’t think about that. You have to register somewhere in order to use your $12.99 cam, install some app and are good to go.

      How would a someone not interested in tech know that the footage data is stored on some online server and you are at the mercy of their itsec.

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        Which is why these companies that are marketing wifi and cloud-polling devices should be held responsible for the data breaches and regulated more rigorously.

        It should be cost-prohibitive to design a smart device that sends data to a centralized server, but they do it because the upside value of having the data is so attractive. They shouldn’t be allowed to hide behind a ToS agreement with mandatory arbitration when their security is inevitably breached.

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          Take it up with your congressman.

          Seriously. It sounds like you have an informed and well-reasoned opinion. They’re not 100% corrupt. And they usually only hear about tech from industry lobbyists.

          Let them hear from an intelligent constituent for a change.

          • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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            9 months ago

            Good luck with that, your voice is going to be drowned out by all the companies masquerading as “people” whom they really represent.

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              Taking the time to get in touch with representatives at all levels of government is just good citizenship.

              Sure, there are lobbyists. But there’s me too. We can’t expect to enjoy a civilized society unless we put in the effort.

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                Having done this before and being told to basically get stuffed from one of their underlings I have zero faith in it. It’s basically just another token thing that’s about as useful as “thoughts & prayers” for the most part.

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                I do it when I can, but that kind of influence just can’t be done by a handful of tech-literate terminally-online weirdos. It takes a buttload of money or a massive amount of public attention to push an issue like this forward, especially when political operatives absolutely benefit from both the data and the companies involved. The political calculus just isn’t there.

                More people need to know and care about this before any legislator is going to spend political capital on it.

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          9 months ago

          Good luck holding a company sitting in China “responsible” for about anything.

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      With end to end encryption, and requiring manual key transfer (no key sync), this would not be an issue.

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    why the fuck would anyone put a camera in their bedroom, or bathroom?

    Outside of people making porn, securing the entrances to a home should be sufficient, no need to video yourself sleeping.

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      They may have people working in their homes whom they do not fully trust - cleaners, maids, nannies etc.

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        I live in Vietnam. This is perhaps the most common reason for use of indoor cameras here. People buy random cheap Chinese security cameras on the internet and put them in their homes. They blindly trust these cameras, which leads to what you’re seeing in this article.

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      9 months ago

      How is the room relevant here? Is it not a grave invasion of privacy regardless in which room of the house it was? What even is your point, that if the camera had been in the living room instead… then what?

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        The room is extremely relevant. The activities that happen on your patio, in your living room, are different than the activities that happen in your bedroom. Some of those activities are more sensitive than others

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            Not at all. But there would be less sensitive material to be observed in that instance. Just because there’s different severities, doesn’t mean anything except the ultimate severity is acceptable.

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    it’s funny the vnexpress would publish this. vietnamese people are obsessed with security cameras. they see them as a deterrent, or as a way to find the perpetrator later and get all your property back. they put them everywhere.

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      Sus af bruh wtf

      Edit because im being down voted, i find it so insane that you guys are actively seeking out hacked ip cam footage from innocent people that’s being leaked online.

      There’s tons of porn on the Internet, and no reason for you all to be trying to PAY SOMEONE for non-consensual sexual footage

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          Maybe, but i disagree because the way to make that joke would have been to use /s or quote the well known IASIP line.

          The way they wrote it, someone literally responded where they can find the telegram user for access

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    9 months ago

    Hypothetically I want to secure my home with Cameras…

    What’s the best way to do this? OSS preferably.

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      9 months ago

      No-internet cameras hooked up to local storage.

      For remote access, you could use whatever you want to use for remotely accessing local files.

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    9 months ago

    This is why you shouldn’t use cloud services for personal security, because the cloud is just someone else’s computer.

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      9 months ago

      In general, cloud services have far better security than DIY systems. All of the hacked systems in this article are home based systems.

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        You can’t connect home system that is never connected to internet, basically make home server and hook up cameras and don’t ever connect that to internet

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          Half the reason to own a security camera system is so you can monitor it while away. Can’t do that if the system isn’t online.