• Windows2000Srv@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Something that people should keep in mind is that the fees were lower for those “out-of-province” students in Québec than in their own province.

    This fee raise basically brings it on par with what they would pay in their on province. One of the reasoning behind this law is that Québec shouldn’t be subsidizing other provinces way too expensive university system.

    If you are living in Québec, university fees are quite cheap, and this doesn’t change.

    The French vs English aspect is widely talked about, but not a whole lot is mentioned about the actual price hike.

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      7 months ago

      The total fees for out of province students will still be lower than for out of province students in other provinces.

      The fees for international students will still be lower than the fees for international students in other provinces.

      In the only province where French is the only official language, French universities received less financing than English universities no matter the source, including from the provincial government. Donating to one’s Alma Mater isn’t part of the French Canadian culture for a ton of historical reasons, that leads to an university like McGill getting 200m$ from a single ex student and having over a billion sleeping in its coffers while the Université du Québec en Outaouais barely manages to offer basic services to its students.

      Is it such a bad thing that the government asks that foreign students integrate themselves by learning the local language? That’s an incentive for them to stay and it prevents the issue of having some of them stay without being able to speak the language, pretty much forcing them to live in one of three urban areas and their suburbs (Montreal, Gatineau, Sherbrooke).

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          7 months ago

          More and more people speak it on a global scale, you shouldn’t celebrate the disappearance of non English cultures.

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          7 months ago

          See there’s this thing we call “a definition” and that word is appropriate to the situation and if you think “foreigner” is pejorative then you’re the one who’s got an issue…

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            Yeah totally, it’s not at all a well-known derogatory term used to other people’s.

            Honestly if this is how French Canadians act, I totally get the reputation. Sounds like a bunch of downright exclusionary shit cunts.

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              “Oh no, French Canadians use words in their second language based on their definition, what a bunch of exclusionary shit cunts!”

              You should really go sit down and reflect on the way you just acted.

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      7 months ago

      They can still study in English if they want to, they just have to learn the local language.

      Try to go to university in Vancouver without knowing a word of English.

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            7 months ago

            It means that it has to do with ethnic superiority. It isn’t that they are worried about the uniqueness of Quebec vanishing it means they are worried about their specific group not running things.

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    7 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Canadian province of Quebec is introducing a plan that will hike tuition fees and mandate French proficiency for its out-of-province university students.

    In a letter published on Thursday, Quebec’s higher education minister Pascale Déry said tuition for out-of-province students would increase from C$9,000 ($6,700; £5,200) to C$12,000 a year.

    The 33% rise is smaller than what the province had originally proposed in October, which was to double the tuition fees for students from the rest of Canada.

    The province will also require that 80% of students from outside Quebec reach an intermediate level of French by the time they graduate, and universities would face financial penalties if that target is not met.

    Mr Saini added his university had not ruled out moves like opening another campus outside of Quebec or filing a potential lawsuit.

    Concordia University President Graham Carr told the Montreal Gazette that he believed the plan would lead to a drop in the number of students, and would damage Quebec’s reputation.


    The original article contains 429 words, the summary contains 164 words. Saved 62%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    7 months ago

    Hey, @quinten@lemmy.world looking how this thread is degenerating into a complete shit show of Québec bashing, can we lock it down?

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    7 months ago

    Frankly, good. Montreal was already becoming remarkably English and that has risks of encouraging Quebec secessionism. Same thing should happen for the Mayan language in Yucatan, Mexico.