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    10 months ago

    Show this to any trump fan and they’ll just say:

    “No, he didn’t”. And that’s it. You can’t reason with trump supporters.

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        10 months ago

        Ok, the stock market is at a near record high right now, under Joe Biden. Does that mean Joe Biden is now the best president ever?

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            10 months ago

            Me= Obama was the one who got bin Ladn

            GOP =No, it was the troops that got bin Ladn.

            Me = So, Bush dressing up like a fighter pilot and pretending he’d done anything was a giant insult to the real heroes?

            GOP = Why do you hate America?

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              Bush was a fighter pilot, though, in the 70s.

              In order to get out of fighting in Vietnam, he joined the air national guard. Never flew a mission and ended up getting grounded because he didn’t complete a physical on time in 1972.

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                10 months ago

                We’re splitting hairs here, but to me, never flying a mission and getting grounded means he was never a ‘fighter pilot.’

                I mean, we agree on the basics and have a mildly different interpretation of the terms.

                Have a safe and happy holiday season

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                  A large portion of fighter pilots don’t actually fly a mission or a mission that involves weapons activation. That doesn’t make them any less of a fighter pilot. Most of the time they are training or just protecting assets.

                  But if you want to walk up to these guys and suggest they are not a fighter pilot cause they didn’t kill anyone yet then go ahead.

  • Ashyr@sh.itjust.works
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    The amount of people here commenting authoritatively about this is disheartening.

    Trump’s economic policies were insane. I remember looking at his campaign platform and seeing tax cuts everywhere and with no way to pay for anything.

    I remember him shuttering valuable tools like the pandemic response teams because he wanted to tear down the success of previous administrations.

    I still remember him mocking our military, displaying state secrets on national tv, trade wars that destroyed American jobs, diplomatic decisions that ruined international relationships.

    I remember immigrant children locked in cages.

    I remember the rule of law being absolutely trampled in order to achieve nothing. Just norms and institutions being torn down.

    Trump accomplished nothing and made literally every facet of our government, politics and economic life worse.

    He performed a political pump and dump and the entire world is still picking up the pieces.

    He is a fascist and categorically the worst president we’ve ever had and every person here saying, “well actually…” should be ashamed.

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    He certainly didn’t help, but I think it would’ve been the worst Economic record in modern U.S. history no matter who you put at the helm.

    It’d be like blaming any one person for The Great Depression, it was gonna hit either way by the time it happened, whoever was there could only mitigate it.

    Though again, he did nothing to help it, and probably did exacerbate the issues…

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        10 months ago

        Tbh Andrew Johnson (became president after Lincoln was assassinated) is pretty high up there, too. I might actually put him ahead of Trump in terribleness, because a lot of the regressive societal shit we are dealing with now - and have been dealing with for around 150 years - can be directly attributed to Johnson’s softball treatment of the Confeds during reintegration.