The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the primary ballot, saying he is ineligible to be president.
This alone is a nothingburger. But it might set the precedent for other states to make the same ruling.
Then again the SC will likely overrule this, so most likely nothing matters.
Not a lawyer here, but I’m not sure the scouts even could do anything here. The states and their own election mechanics, to the best of my knowledge, are independent of the federal government to the extent that a given state could put whoever they want on the ballot.
If that’s the case though, I have to wonder what stops them from simply putting their chosen winner as the only candidate on the general election ballot, other than the inevitable storm of lawsuits.
Here we go! I guess the SCOTUS is having their hand forced?
Sadly a little inconsequential judging by polls for the state.
So does this mean Bobart might lose since the upballot is gone?
Fucking finally.
Fucking finally. That one Colorado judge didn’t have the courage to do it (and I understand why), and I’m glad this panel did. I hope they got personal protection, because Trump is effectively a mob boss.
The nice thing is that, now there’s actually a precedent in place, maybe other states will follow on.
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Please, remain alert. Even if he gets disqualified by the Supreme court next, he’s likely to try Jan. 6 Part two: Orange Boogaloo. There’s enough armed psychoes to vouch for him even if it’s meaningless. I feel like every major institution needs to double their security in case something like that happens. Like any lifetime loser, this idiot just can’t lose, especially having a slight chance to escape responsibility for his ongoing trials.
Yeah “every institution” will just “double their security” for the indefinite future. Problem solved. Thanks internet genius!
2024 is going to be an inflection point. Either Trump wins… or he loses.
How is it surprising or an open legal question when it has been thoroughly proved and stated in countless ways that he betrayed his position several times? Wtf? You have proof that he is dangerous and anti democratic? Wtf?
Is there really so few old men that can take his bloody place that it has to be this one dangerous unstable man? You really have no other possible idol in conservative land that is not mentally unstable?
It’s a lot easier to think about when you see that it isn’t the power or influence of one person. It’s the influence and support of a group of wealthy backers who want all this to happen and continue.
One of the most confusing things for me is the conservative Republicans placing all their support behind a completely old ugly idiot like Trump. If they had placed all that energy behind someone younger and less ugly (physically and in personality), they probably would be governing the country by now … and with someone younger, they could look forward to decades of influence.
Wtf? It should not be surprising, and this is a legal answer to the relevant legal question. How else would you have it answered, extra judicially? Wtf.
Finally.
How does this work out, legally speaking, when it comes to state certification via electors of the President? If he did somehow win, would Colorado just not recognize him as President within their borders?
Has there ever been a case like this where a state didn’t allow someone on the ballot for President and they still won, outside of going all the way back to Lincoln?
Votes for Trump would be invalid I guess.
At this point, the first to call “shotgun!” becomes President, no backsies.
No. Colorado disqualified him from their ballot. That’s it. They have authority over their own elections, not other state’s.
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I think that’s a prescient question, but my guess is that if enough people wrote him in, and he won in the general election, Republicans would just send their slate of electors as a show of fealty.
Republicans have a slate of electors that they can send? What do you mean?
Each party selects a slate of electors before the general happens to send after the votes are tallied. Those electors are tasked with voting for the candidate who won the most votes in the state (with a few states splitting that vote by special districts). They sign their names to a certificate that makes its way to Congress for the final tally. Electors are tasked with voting how the people vote, and they take that job very seriously.
What happened with Trump is the losing party selected an extra slate of electors in secret who agreed to sign a fraudulent certificate, and they tried to send that one to supercede the real one. They were acting as a group of “faithless Electors,” which is a thing that can happen, but the only times it’s happened is generally a single vote, that wouldn’t affect the outcome of the election, as a form of protest.
I hope that clears things up.
What I fear is other states doing similar things with slimmer pretense. II have no doubt purple states with red leadership (like Florida) would consider finding any pretense to yank the democrat off the ballot. but I’m nonetheless glad that a court finally decided the obvious: Trump engaged in insurrection.
Trump violated the Consitution and disqualified himself. Biden hasn’t done anything remotely close to disqualifying.
That has not stopped Republicans in the past. See: Biden impeachment inquiry
That is more about retaliation, not law.
You don’t think Texas could find a MAGA Federal or State Judge willing to make a finding of fact that Biden is “directly formenting an insurrection” at the Southern Border?
Border crossing is not attempting to overthrow the government. They are fleeing other nations.
When has reality stopped Republicans?
it would be “nonsensical to imagine the framers of the amendment, fearful of former Confederates returning to power, would bar them from low-level offices but not the highest one in the land” - commented the lawyer
I can’t wait for the megathread when he fucking dies. Hopefully, after a few years in a supermax.
He has access to rich people doctors, we’re stuck with him for at least another decade.
Jeffrey Epstein had access to rich people doctors too. Look where that got him.
He was healthy and strong enough to definitely kill himself all on his own.
Until proven otherwise, I will continue to believe he was silenced (as in: killed, perhaps even at the order of Trump himself somehow, considering how tight he historically was with Epstein). Every single official explanation of the situation I have seen since his murder (and again: I firmly believe it was murder) has simply ignored HUGE questions and discrepancies that are at the absolute core of the matter.
It almost seems like it was done to send a message. Either that or a situation where they had to act when they had the chance even if it would look bad.
The part that’s deeply problematic - and, in fact, should absolutely be considered a constitutional crisis if any evidence can be uncovered to the effect - is that Trump may have ordered the summary, trial-less execution of a person who was fully and completely in the custody of The State, and that the execution was carried out. And the simple fact that everything about the matter is still opaque and was pretty definitely kept quiet from multiple angles indicates clear consciousness of guilt on the parts of whoever was involved.
