The teen girl was stabbed 28 times in a meticulously planned daytime attack.
@stopthatgirl7 Release their names. They will be in prison, so no need for protective custody, and this needs to follow them for life.
Their names will be know soon enough as they probably be the GOP new heros
@BobVersionFour @stopthatgirl7 Tory, but yes.
Different name same bullshit
If you’re more upset about Killers going to Jail then of a young girl being brutally Murdered you might be a Pro Life Republican!
Huh? Are right wingers upset these kids were found guilty?
It was their children, engaging in the stochastic terrorism they support, against someone they consider subhuman.
If they haven’t expressed their displeasure yet yet, it’s because they’re waiting for Fox to tell them which spin it needs to be “acceptable.”
Remember Kyle Rittenhouse? The judge literally posed for pictures with him, and they turned him into a media darling and will probably run him for office if he can stay relevant and out of jail for a few more years.
I definitely get that this could hypothetically be used by the right wing mediasphere (and likely may. They’re always at the bottom of the barrel, scraping away).
My point is…have they? It just seems weird to me to be up in arms over something we think they might do as it sounds like something they would do.
There is PLENTY of shit they’re already doing that deserves our attention. Like, this is a weird trend I’ve been seeing lately. People photoshopping insane right wing bumper stickers or creating…well…“fake news” and then getting up in arms over it. Like. What. We have so much to worry about. Worrying about stuff that isn’t happening is…fuckin dumb. It almost, like, takes attention away from and dulls the impact of the shit they’re actually doing. It just doesn’t make sense.
You need to stop giving regressives the benefit of the doubt. They will couch their rhetoric in as much plausible deniability as you’re willing to extend them, exactly so that you’ll go into the comments and carry water for them.
You and I both know beyond a shadow of a doubt that this will be prime fodder for AM talk radio, pulpits, and other bastions of the culture war. They are out there right now saying, “This is sad, but the boy [sic] was confused and was groomed by society.” Framing it as grooming, dead naming, etc. is all a way for them to muddy the waters and poison the well. If it isn’t blood libel, it’s a single step away. Here’s one example, I am sure you can find more if you look: https://twitter.com/Jermont_II
Disgusting act of cowardice. Hope they get punished to the full extent of the law. They can’t get life in prison as minors, can’t they?
What I read earlier says ‘life’ in prison and they’re waiting to see about about parole or early release. From The Guardian
The judge, Mrs Justice Yip, said she would sentence the pair next month, and would decide whether to lift reporting restrictions so that the killers could be named. She told the teenagers that she would have to impose a life sentence but that she needed to adjourn for further reports to decide on the minimum tariff they must serve.
lift reporting restrictions
bad angle shot: we’re gonna know who this is when two children who knew Ghey disappear, and the idea that children can just be disappeared by the government without any transparency scares the shit out of me. I really hope they allow these kids and their (well-deserved) fate to be entered into the public record. I understand anonymity to protect people who’ve not been convicted of a crime but now that we know that they gleefully conspired to brutally murder someone just because they thought they could get away with it and wanted to know what it felt like, what are we actually protecting?
Of course people who know these people personally already know who it is. Not releasing the names of minors accused of crimes is standard practice in the US, too. It happens when minors are tried as adults, though, meaning they get sentences that last beyond 18 years of age. I’m not super familiar with UK practices but I’d expect they will release the names for a crime this serious, and since apparently they’re getting decades in prison it doesn’t really matter.
that’s the thing, the article says that at sentencing the judge “would decide whether to lift reporting restrictions so that the killers could be named.”
That implies that people can be arrested, charged, tried, sentenced and imprisoned, potentially for their whole lives, under a veil of secrecy. That’s gross and scary.
Oh, so they might not reveal it even if they are sentenced as adults to life. That’s a good point. And also true that the public could figure it out anyway from people who know the families involved.
that’s what the article seems to imply, and that’s the scary part, but I’m not a lawyer and I’m certainly not a british lawyer so idk if there’s some statute somewhere that says this all becomes public when they reach the age of majority or some other protection in place.
A life sentence is automatic for murder (in the UK). But a life sentence doesn’t mean life in prison. It means that the conviction will never be spent. Convicted murderers typically get a minimum sentence (whole life orders are exceedingly rare) and then it is up to the parole board when they are released. But if they commit any offences while on parole they can be recalled to prison immediately. Jon Venables is a recent example. Convicted as a child in 1993, released in 2001 then recalled (twice) for possession of CSAM.