Does anyone have good site recommendations for lossless files such as flac’s specifically for music.
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Check out private torrent trackers. Look for Orpheous and Redacted, OPH/RED.
RED isn’t worth it compared to the other one since everything will trickle down to OPH anyways, RED has a very mean test and will hate you for searching anything at all.
SoulSeekQT is a free p2p file sharing service specifically for music and you can specify file types or bitrate in filters.
Sign up for a free trial of Tidal. Use tidal-dl from GitHub
This is really good. If you VPN to Nigeria it only costs $2.70 a month.
The first rule of soulseek is…
You have to share if you want to browse my files
We don’t talk about Soulseek.
File sharing is rule three.
Mostly for me, Qobuz rips (through SlavArt) are the best. But if for some reason you can’t get what you want on Qobuz, I typically look it up on Soulseek and 99% of the time I found what I’m looking for
I used to like slavart. I found out about them while they still allowed album downloads on their website. Later I moved to their divolt website (like a selfhosted discord) where they allowed downloads via bots.
At some point they decided not to bother with divolt and told everyone to start using their discord bot. Anyone who had concerns about privacy or about using their main discord account for piracy was pretty much told that they were an idiot and should go fuck themselves.
At that point I transitioned to ripping directly from quobus as explained in this guide. If I can’t find what I want on quobuz I go to deezer.
While Soulseek is a great option, would recommend Deemix as the primary download method unless Deezer hosted album is some very bad remaster and you need to hunt down older release. You either need a premium account or find something called “ARL cookie” to download above 128 kbps MP3.
Worth noting that the absolute best quality Deezer has is 44,1kHz 16-bit lossless, and most songs there are MP3 anyway.
If this is good enough for you, absolutely go for it. If you’re looking to download high-quality music from a streming service, you can use tidal-dl (or tidal-gui for more convenience) combined with Tidal - though it’s worth noting Tidal has been subject to some controversies regarding some of the master quality albums, too.
Plenty of albums get ripped lossless(typically FLAC) and uploaded to Usenet
Just curious, what’s a flac?
FLAC (which stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec) is a way to code audio files. It makes those audio files smaller, without affecting the sound quality.
Wait, I’m confused. The site you linked says that FLAC files are typically larger than mp3s?
it’s not physically possible to downvote someone on hexbear
It’s not possible for Hexbear users, it is for users of other instances.
Yes. Mp3 is not lossless, so it can be even smaller
In term of data retention, FLAC is like compressing a RAW image file by using a zip/rar, the data integrity is the same when you open the zip/rar and check the image. MP3 is like reducing the size of a RAW image by converting it to JPEG, data integrity is affected and the image won’t look as good anymore. The most common uncompressed audio format that people know is WAV files (but you can also find compressed WAV files).
MP3s are quite compressed, meaning a lot of data is thrown away in an effort to have smaller files. The quality of audio is sacrificed quite a bit though.
Lossless formats retain as much data as possible as to not impact the sound quality, but at the expense of larger files. The OP says “smaller” because that’s in comparison to the raw uncompressed sound data stream. But they are larger than MP3s because MP3 is a loasy format.
File size used to master a lot in the past when digital music players first came out. My first player had 128 MB storage, for example. At 3-5 MB per song that would fill up quickly. Nowadays larger storage of portable devices is more ubiquitous, with even the cheapest phones sportiing 32-64 GB, and more. So people prefer audio quality and don’t care as much if each song takes up more space.
FLAC files use lossless compression, which means all the original data is preserved (which is why people like FLAC), which makes FLAC files smaller than an uncompressed .WAV audio file, but still larger than an MP3 file, which uses lossy compression. Lossy compression does involve the loss of some data. This is what allows MP3 files to be smaller than FLAC. With the existence of other more modern lossy audio file formats/codecs like .AAC, and .opus, MP3s should no longer be used unless it is required for compatibility reasons. The modern lossy formats offer higher quality audio files at lower file sizes than MP3.
I didn’t downvote you, but I think know why you’re getting downvoted. Your comment tipifies laziness and your reaction to the downvotes smacks of entitlement. I’m sorry if that feels rude or offends you. I’m really trying to not be mean about it.
You’re not actually trying to gain knowledge; you’re just begging for a knowledge handout for something that would be obvious even from just a cursory web search and a quick review of the relevant Wikipedia article (which is probably the top non-sponsored result). That shit gets old real fast. Sometimes you really do just have to RTFM.
Has it occurred to you that maybe I am perfectly capable of googling something, but the level of technobabble that I got back in the results went way over my head? And that Wikipedia wasn’t especially helpful (see link elsewhere in the thread), so the best way I could think of to understand something was to just ask the people who’re talking about it, and, presumably, know about it?
So, thank you for the information, but please do work on your soft skills a little. For example, apologising for something that “feels rude or offends”, and then going ahead and doubling down (with added assumptions, no less), makes that apology feel highly questionable in the first place.
I should have just downvoted your bullshit and moved on.
FLAC files are typically larger than MP3, because with MP3 roughly 90% of the original file is discarded on encoding, hence lossy compression. At decoding the codec tries to restore this 90% out of the original remaining 10%. This sounds worse than it actually is, but you understand why MP3 is considered inferior by audio purists.
On the other hand FLAC uses a different compression technique that reduces the original file by 30-50% but without any data deletion, hence lossless. So, original file let’s say 100MB as .wav, compresses to 30-50 MB IN FLAC and 6-10 MB in MP3.
I gladly sacrifice the additional storage to get noticeably better quality audio.
I get all my music in FLAC, spend extra when I need to buy them.
But ‘noticeably better audio quality’ needs its own explanation.
If you have under $200 headphones, 320b MP3 will most likely suffice. There are many aspects like type of music, volume, sound chip, amplifiers, and of course actual quality of the MP3 (some recode 256 or 128 into 320 to make it look better).
But unless you have quality headphones and enjoy your music without distractions, MP3s will serve just as well.
Of course, once you get to listen to music in uncompressed quality alone with good hardware - you can’t go back. And it’s an expensive hobby.
Jazz music only sounds good with FLAC, IMO. With MP3, even high bitrate 320kbps, the hihats and other dynamics have a washed out sound. You don’t even need good speakers to notice it
I don’t entirely agree with you. Comparing the same song in MP3 or FLAC on the factory-fitted audio system in my car (2023 Skoda Octavia Combi) already makes a huge difference. Of course the difference is smaller when using 256 or 320 kbps MP3, but even then FLAC just adds that extra bit of depth and “openness” to the music
soulseek is still the best. Use the Nicotine+ and it’s even better.
I’ve seen soulseek and nicotine+ recommended a lot, however is there how to use them tutorial? Or is it so simple that it doesn’t need one ?(i opened nicotine+ and couldn’t figure out what to do next)
Not sure if there is a guide out there but it’s pretty easy and I can help you through it. First you’ll need to make an account name and password. I remember it prompting for it the first startup but if not look through the options. Then you’ll want to set the path to your music library in preferences -> shares. These are the files that you’re making available to people searching and downloading. Then go to preferences -> downloads -> folders. I like to set my download folder as separate from my music library so that I can standardize it to my naming conventions, clean up metadata, and place it directly into my Artist - Album folder hierarchy, but you could probably get by with just setting this to your music library directly if you aren’t in to that side of things. You can also set things like upload and queue limits and all that while in the preferences tab. Then just go to the “search files” tab and it’s pretty easy to find what you want. I usually just go with “[album title] flac” and that’s enough to get it 95% of the time even for obscure stuff. Pick an uploader based on speed / how nicely organized the files are, then just right click the folder name -> download folder and it will move over to the download tab.
Realized right after typing this out that there is a setup assistant at help -> setup assistant. Probably way more helpful than I am but feel free to ask anything else if you need to!
Awesome thanks a lot for explanation, i’ll go over this when i’m at computer and let you know if any more doubts.
If i’m just starting with collecting music, how/what do I put for sharing (current collection is empty or at max 20 files). Can I go ahead with empty shared folder and start sharing as I download?
Some people will have share requirements but I don’t think enough do to make getting started a problem. All of my stuff is totally unrestricted so if you like death metal / jazz I can help you out.
I’ve been trying to use a VPN while using this. Without the VPN, the port test comes up open. However, when using a VPN they’re closed. Didn’t seem to affect the downloads. Should I have these ports open? I tried to share some stuff, and it seems like it is. I’ve even configured the port forward thing to what my VPN says is open when I connect and didn’t seem to work. You got any ideas?
You have to port forward at the VPN level, this is why everyone was pissed at Mullvad for ending it earlier this year. Currently the only VPNs supporting it afaik are ProtonVPN and AirVPN. You can still dl/ul without PF, but you can only connect to people who do have it enabled if you do not (for instance, mullvad stops me from PF now, so we could not connect if you had the VPN, but we could without VPN if it says “open.”)
Okay.
Yes I’m using proton. And when I enable it it gives me a different port every time. So, then I’m supposed to put that number into the settings part? Like where exactly? Maybe you can shoot me a DM if you want to. There’s like a place to specify port numbers.
Yeah, use that number in the settings part, where it says port. Iirc since it has a range you do the port on one and then one number higher on the other, i.e “port 666 - port 667.”
Ah okay!! I’ll give that a shot! Thank you!
SLSK
