It’s been a while since I’ve had Papa Johns, but they were at least as good/equally bad as Pizza Hut.
I worked as a driver for Pizza Hut in the 90s, and their pizza was OK, but plain. I was sick of their sauce by the 3rd week I worked there. Pizza Hut went to shit when they started to move away from having sit down restaurants. Now their pizza is terrible.
These days there are plenty of other pizza places to choose from, and I’d never order from either Papa Johns or Pizza Hut. Not that I was ordering it much, but final straw for Pizza Hut was when they did their “Any PIzza, Any Crust, $10” and then had “Stuffed crust excluded” in the small print.
If I want cheap pizza I’d get Little Caesar’s or Pizza Ranch. At least I won’t feel ripped off.
Oh ok, that’s more understandable, because when a group of poor college kids are pooling money for pizza and the consensus is “anything but Papa Johns”, that is the rock bottom.
I honestly don’t know if Papa Johns is good or bad, because their ads make them look like hot garbage and I’ve never been brave enough to see if they taste as bad as they look.
the last time i had pizza hut, their last chance; it was typical, a grease pit. that poor cardboard.
i filled out an online complaint form and the store manager called me asking what they could do.
“change your recipe. you sell grease with a little pizza”. i was honest with the guy, its not his franchise thats the problem, its the product. i had finally learned my lesson. pizza hut clearly hasnt learned theirs
Not minimizing or dismissing what you’re saying, but they must do something different over here, even as a franchisee, because it’s not the best but not that bad either. I can’t imagine what exactly, but we have other chains that I’d avoid first. Papa Johns doesn’t even have one location on this island. I think they’re all on Oahu with maybe one on the big island.
I HATED Pizza Hut growing up in California. Way too greasy. Single slice of meat lovers would make me sick. Then I moved to Illinois for a few years and it was night and day. Suddenly Pizza Hut was GOOD. Light, flakey crust. Right amount of ingredients. No grease. Moved back to California and it was greasy shit again.
I dunno, there’s definitely some regional differences going on.
i eat 3-4 pizzas /week. its kinda one of the only things i do eat… a lot.
B+ papa johns is not all that great either, but i like the sweeter crust, and that makes their bread sticks great.
A love a solid pie in the form of giordanos, if you can get it. thats a Pie. like 3 inches thick of cheese.
C few chains like cicis… might as well be frozen.
A- mellow mushroom is an interesting place if you can get it when the cook isnt high
A little caesars is the underdog. its the only chain in town that makes their dough fresh
C new york city pizza is chain around here with paper thin pizza, which is not my thing. i shouldnt need to know origami to eat your almost nothing pizza
D pizza hut. blech. and their breadsticks are just twigs they pulled off a tree out back.
Like I said, they must do something different here, which isn’t surprising if true.
Most of the chains you mentioned have no presence here, it’s all mostly local individual shops, many are mom and pop variety. I think RoundTable is the only other large chain that has a presence on this island and the quality is dubious.
That might be why the pizza hut here is relatively better than elsewhere, they have to compete with local offerings that are superior, but usually more expensive.
Somewhere you just made Papa John smile.
It’s been a while since I’ve had Papa Johns, but they were at least as good/equally bad as Pizza Hut.
I worked as a driver for Pizza Hut in the 90s, and their pizza was OK, but plain. I was sick of their sauce by the 3rd week I worked there. Pizza Hut went to shit when they started to move away from having sit down restaurants. Now their pizza is terrible.
These days there are plenty of other pizza places to choose from, and I’d never order from either Papa Johns or Pizza Hut. Not that I was ordering it much, but final straw for Pizza Hut was when they did their “Any PIzza, Any Crust, $10” and then had “Stuffed crust excluded” in the small print.
If I want cheap pizza I’d get Little Caesar’s or Pizza Ranch. At least I won’t feel ripped off.
No, not at all, not where I went to college.
Yeah, my comment didn’t mean to elevate Papa Johns, but instead denigrate Pizza Hut. :)
Oh ok, that’s more understandable, because when a group of poor college kids are pooling money for pizza and the consensus is “anything but Papa Johns”, that is the rock bottom.
I honestly don’t know if Papa Johns is good or bad, because their ads make them look like hot garbage and I’ve never been brave enough to see if they taste as bad as they look.
Well as of 2021 the feedback from the exited founder isn’t too great
https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-john-schnatter-800-pizzas-18-months-2021-11
And he’s saying the quality isn’t as good as before, which wasn’t that good to begin with.
the last time i had pizza hut, their last chance; it was typical, a grease pit. that poor cardboard. i filled out an online complaint form and the store manager called me asking what they could do.
“change your recipe. you sell grease with a little pizza”. i was honest with the guy, its not his franchise thats the problem, its the product. i had finally learned my lesson. pizza hut clearly hasnt learned theirs
Not minimizing or dismissing what you’re saying, but they must do something different over here, even as a franchisee, because it’s not the best but not that bad either. I can’t imagine what exactly, but we have other chains that I’d avoid first. Papa Johns doesn’t even have one location on this island. I think they’re all on Oahu with maybe one on the big island.
I HATED Pizza Hut growing up in California. Way too greasy. Single slice of meat lovers would make me sick. Then I moved to Illinois for a few years and it was night and day. Suddenly Pizza Hut was GOOD. Light, flakey crust. Right amount of ingredients. No grease. Moved back to California and it was greasy shit again.
I dunno, there’s definitely some regional differences going on.
i eat 3-4 pizzas /week. its kinda one of the only things i do eat… a lot.
B+ papa johns is not all that great either, but i like the sweeter crust, and that makes their bread sticks great.
A love a solid pie in the form of giordanos, if you can get it. thats a Pie. like 3 inches thick of cheese.
C few chains like cicis… might as well be frozen.
A- mellow mushroom is an interesting place if you can get it when the cook isnt high
A little caesars is the underdog. its the only chain in town that makes their dough fresh
C new york city pizza is chain around here with paper thin pizza, which is not my thing. i shouldnt need to know origami to eat your almost nothing pizza
D pizza hut. blech. and their breadsticks are just twigs they pulled off a tree out back.
Like I said, they must do something different here, which isn’t surprising if true.
Most of the chains you mentioned have no presence here, it’s all mostly local individual shops, many are mom and pop variety. I think RoundTable is the only other large chain that has a presence on this island and the quality is dubious.
That might be why the pizza hut here is relatively better than elsewhere, they have to compete with local offerings that are superior, but usually more expensive.
yep, it sounds like youve got a unicorn. those mom an pop shops are sometimes the absolute best…
dammit now i have to go get a pizza.